Episode 150: Sally Bunnell | Digital Nomad, CEO & Founder of NaviSavi -The Real Travel Reel

Apr 18, 2022

“You meet people for a reason, a season, or a lifetime; and you do not know it until it's all done.”

Sally Bunnell has been to 96 countries and was recognized as one of the 2020 Young Industry Leaders in Travel. A real digital nomad, building the app she wished she could have had for the past decade! She started NaviSavi because she couldn’t find any other platform that bridged the gap between wanderlust, browsing, and actual itinerary planning with videos. But this is only the beginning! More features to come soon…

Learn more about NaviSavi at NaviSaviApp.com. Follow Sally on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.

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Episode Transcript

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[Unknown6]: welcome back to your next stop with juliet han you guys know i say this every time

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[Unknown6]: but i am truly excited to bring you another guest that has followed a passion and

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[Unknown6]: churned it into a business wanted to welcome you guys to sally benelli

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[Unknown5]: sally beell ban

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[Unknown6]: is it benelli okay start this again

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[Unknown6]: so welcome sally benvie savvy how are you

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[Unknown5]: yes i'm doing great thank you for having

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[Unknown6]: you think

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[Unknown5]: me on the show julie i truly appreciate it excited to be here

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[Unknown6]: yes i'm excited well you know what i was i always tell my guest where we met and i

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[Unknown6]: do we meet on ig or was it an email chain i usually check before but i didn't

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[Unknown6]: check this time because i was like ah it's one of those

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[Unknown5]: yes yes it was definitely on a i think it was through linkedin on a we got

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[Unknown5]: introduced somehow so you know and

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[Unknown6]: you don't

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[Unknown5]: and i'm one to always follow up and said hey are you have any space for me i'm

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[Unknown5]: always i've been watching your show and i want to be on this so

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[Unknown6]: i love it well thank you so much so what i do with all my guests is we kind of

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[Unknown6]: just take a deep dive into your life and really go back to a little bit of

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[Unknown6]: childhood how you grew up if you went to university if you had you know a certain

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[Unknown6]: career that way and then where you you pivoted or how that all looks so if you can

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[Unknown6]: kind of jump in and tell us a little bit about yourself and we'll go from there

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[Unknown5]: absolutely well it

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[Unknown6]: well

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[Unknown5]: all started in a small town in nebraska i'm from a town of about seven hundred

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[Unknown5]: people i'm a beekeepers daughter

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[Unknown6]: daughter

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[Unknown5]: five hours from any major airport and you know

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[Unknown5]: i've always had this passion to

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[Unknown6]: you know i hope i

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[Unknown6]: to

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[Unknown5]: want and

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[Unknown5]: drive and see something more and so kind of you know i was always being an

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[Unknown6]: once dr he

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[Unknown5]: entrepreneur at a young age i had my own pet babysitting business i was you know

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[Unknown5]: always doing something that was creative

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[Unknown5]: yeah and so i started to follow my passion for music that i had

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[Unknown6]: my god

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[Unknown5]: and i ended up getting a job at the

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[Unknown6]: so

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[Unknown5]: local radio station and i walked in i said i will clean toilets i will do whatever

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[Unknown5]: you know i just wanted to

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[Unknown6]: system

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[Unknown5]: be in that presence and you know

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[Unknown6]: and

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[Unknown5]: within a week i had my own drive time show

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[Unknown6]: show and

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[Unknown5]: and i was recording commercials the next year i was coming back in the summers to

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[Unknown5]: you know sell

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[Unknown5]: advertising doing live remote so it really laid a great foundation for a career in

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[Unknown6]: a lot of time like so

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[Unknown5]: entertainment for as much entertainment as you can get in nebraska i then went on

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[Unknown5]: to college at the university of nebraska and lincoln where i got two degrees

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[Unknown6]: three one

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[Unknown5]: one in broadcast journalism and

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[Unknown6]: and i

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[Unknown5]: the other one in marketing i always

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[Unknown6]: i would

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[Unknown5]: wanted to be barbara walter so i thought well i can be on on air but i need some

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[Unknown5]: smarts to bracke it up as well so yeah yet during that time i went back and opened

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[Unknown5]: another brand new radio

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[Unknown5]: station with my previous boss and then i started garnering some attention from

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[Unknown6]: radio station and c car and then i i

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[Unknown6]: change

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[Unknown5]: the broadcast

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[Unknown5]: journalism department and got in with abc sports college football nebraska had a

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[Unknown6]: children person

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[Unknown5]: good husker football team at the time so i

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[Unknown6]: yes

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[Unknown5]: capitalized on those opportunities go big red and went down and started working at

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[Unknown5]: like the big twelve championship i did the sugar

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[Unknown5]: bowl in new orleans for the national

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[Unknown6]: sugar and w

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[Unknown5]: championship so i was getting immense opportunities

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[Unknown6]: champion ch so i think

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[Unknown6]: but

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[Unknown5]: after my time at the university was done i applied to

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[Unknown5]: internships and i was one of i believe twenty five or fifty thousand they have

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[Unknown6]: like two and i one of six five

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[Unknown5]: every

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[Unknown5]: summer apply i was narrowed down to the top sixteen at the late show with david

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[Unknown6]: if someone applied at the

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[Unknown5]: letterman so i flew into new york

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[Unknown6]: to new york city

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[Unknown5]: city i'd never been to new york city before i've only been

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[Unknown5]: on a plane once when i was about twenty one

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[Unknown6]: four one

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[Unknown5]: and i went there and i interviewed and it was a perfect match paul

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[Unknown5]: shafer immediately called and said i want her to be

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[Unknown6]: achieve

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[Unknown6]: her

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[Unknown5]: my new intern so

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[Unknown6]: so i

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[Unknown5]: i moved to new york city and thinking

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[Unknown6]: think

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[Unknown5]: you know i'll be here for a few months but i just had finished my degree and i you

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[Unknown5]: know absolutely loved the entertainment field i worked in the music department i

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[Unknown5]: was working with some of the

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[Unknown5]: biggest celebrities under the sun i remember

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[Unknown5]: it was bill clinton and ringo star on and i thought okay i kind of like this in

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[Unknown5]: this industry um

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[Unknown5]: so i was offered a job there and i eventually pivoted over to a record label i

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[Unknown5]: became the coordinator of music video production i had no clue what that really

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[Unknown5]: meant but i just started learning i stayed at that record label for eleven years

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[Unknown5]: in which i became the youngest youngest senior vice president at age twenty nine

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[Unknown5]: in the company history and i became the head of the video content creative

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[Unknown5]: production and then eventually expansion into international territories the record

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[Unknown5]: label was razor and tie records they are now bought out by concord records but we

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[Unknown5]: have properties everyone from i work with selena gomez zinda and also the kids

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[Unknown5]: bought property in which those a kids you can you can thank me or you can also

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[Unknown5]: curse at me i created all those commercials cast all the kids did all the tours so

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[Unknown5]: so i was really absorbed into you know what gen z millennials were all kind of

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[Unknown5]: absorbing and i really saw the

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[Unknown5]: movement of promotional content i was shooting a music video and commercial for

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[Unknown6]: the movement of the most content of shooting a new video watching for events

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[Unknown5]: and they are shooting individual content ugg c user generated content and we start

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[Unknown5]: during that time i really decided to you know start applying that to what i was

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[Unknown5]: seeing in travel i had been i kind of got the travel bug as i said i'd never been

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[Unknown5]: twenties and then i went a little hog wild going to canada then australia london i

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[Unknown5]: knocked out everywhere i could speak english first and then i ventured past that

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[Unknown5]: i've now been to ninety six countries i'm planning to cross my hundred country

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[Unknown5]: this year

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[Unknown6]: this year like forty

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[Unknown5]: i turned forty and all of this really started to pivot into

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[Unknown6]: it's

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[Unknown5]: an idea in which well why can't i just see the experience

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[Unknown6]: experience

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[Unknown5]: of what i'm going to go have what is you know

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[Unknown5]: why am i getting all this

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[Unknown5]: promotional video content photos

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[Unknown5]: and paragraphs and i have to make a three thousand dollar decision for me for two

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[Unknown5]: weeks of a safari you know just show me the real experience um and i remember

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[Unknown5]: asking one of like the contacts i had back and forth with the tour company and i

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[Unknown5]: said can you just

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[Unknown5]: shoot a quick video of the difference between your regular ten experience and the

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[Unknown6]: on a

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[Unknown5]: bumpy road you know what is the actual conditions that i'm going be committing to

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[Unknown5]: for two and a half weeks and they said well yeah we can't do that all the material

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[Unknown5]: we have is up on the site and i said well that's very interesting because you have

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[Unknown5]: social media you have other assets like what are you hiding and

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[Unknown6]: a pause were i lost you for a second so you said so we're gonna stop for a second

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[Unknown6]: i don't it froze so just say you were on a bumpy airplane and then go from there

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[Unknown5]: so here i was watching assets in which i see let me restart on that

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[Unknown5]: so i wanted to know

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[Unknown6]: you know you

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[Unknown5]: you know if i'm going on a safari

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[Unknown5]: am i gonna be on a bumpy you know truck ride for two and a half weeks what you

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[Unknown5]: know what comes of this and you know and

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[Unknown5]: i ask him i say can you just shoot me a

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[Unknown6]: i heard video experience they said yeah we can't do that

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[Unknown5]: very quick video of the experience and they said yeah we can't do that i reply to

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[Unknown5]: him what are you hiding you know this is my money and my time and the two things

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[Unknown5]: people don't have enough of when they travel is those two things time and money so

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[Unknown5]: by nabi sabi that is kind of how the birth of all this started was you know

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[Unknown6]: sa that is point has w work all the time it's like you know

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[Unknown5]: short form user

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[Unknown5]: generated content that we verify we really

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[Unknown6]: generating content to me or human

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[Unknown6]: are we

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[Unknown5]: merge the disconnection between

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[Unknown6]: emotional social media

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[Unknown5]: planning process that you're getting with you know a booking com

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[Unknown6]: do

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[Unknown5]: or a trip advisor but we decided to eliminate all of the bs as i say and that is

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[Unknown6]: that

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[Unknown5]: no photos no reviews

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[Unknown5]: bull crowd

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[Unknown5]: and that's how we got to navi savvy we verify every single clip

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[Unknown5]: so users can now start sorting saving and booking individual videos it's

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[Unknown6]: what do you use now for morning saving and cooking is the

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[Unknown6]: it only on to which everybody to

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[Unknown5]: only content in which everyday users can upload of places that they

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[Unknown5]: would recommend to another friend there is no yeah i wouldn't send a hyperlink you

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[Unknown5]: know i have

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[Unknown5]: friends as i'm traveling all over the world said i saw you were just in croatia

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[Unknown5]: how do i go do what you did now i am left finding hyperlinks seeing where i stayed

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[Unknown6]: day was

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[Unknown5]: where i was at avar what the name of this

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[Unknown6]: forty

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[Unknown5]: party boat was blah blah blah

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[Unknown5]: blah blah and i just got to the point i said i'm just gonna start

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[Unknown6]: the and i just got

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[Unknown5]: recording these videos and putting them up on the platform and saying where

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[Unknown6]: recording video

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[Unknown5]: they're at so users can go in get the correct information and make a decision for

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[Unknown5]: themselves quick

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[Unknown5]: and easy and the conversion that we are seeing right now for businesses you know

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[Unknown6]: we can and the close the you you wake now for this you know on the other side

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[Unknown5]: on the other side of this we're really kind of a video shop fi for travel and you

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[Unknown5]: know it's a user to user but also a business to user platform businesses are

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[Unknown6]: they now have money

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[Unknown5]: to work hard to prove myself to you know you don't quit till the job is done

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[Unknown5]: know and really took everything that i could and said you know what i've learned

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[Unknown5]: enough i am ready to start out on my own now as it applied to technology and an

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[Unknown6]: of the world

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[Unknown6]: so you like in de and all in

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[Unknown5]: you know this idea has never wavered at all that people you know you get four

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[Unknown5]: their barriers to entry they see is still very high

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[Unknown6]: you know the barriers

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[Unknown6]: very high but at the end of the day you know

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[Unknown5]: and difficult but at the end of the day you know we encourage everyone

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[Unknown6]: right i love that so how how long were you in new york city when you were in you

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[Unknown5]: so i was there for sixteen years i moved there in two thousand five and i just

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[Unknown5]: regardless and here i'm paying new york city state and city taxes that's a whole

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[Unknown5]: yes and so when it came down to starting my own business i also thought you know i

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[Unknown6]: you see

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[Unknown5]: and change and you know working on an app in which

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[Unknown5]: i'm sitting with high speed wi fi in my home i need to know how my everyday users

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[Unknown6]: was once the white in my want to know my des

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[Unknown6]: to now why show you know the one point said what you

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[Unknown5]: use this app why it's relevant you know the product market fit what our video

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[Unknown5]: upload speeds are when i'm down in you know guatemala you know these are real

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[Unknown5]: issues that you know we have to make sure that obviously we haven't even been in

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[Unknown5]: you know this is really just kind of our mvp and yet

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[Unknown5]: we have to be compared to the speeds of tick tock and ig stories and you know

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[Unknown5]: so there's a lot of room that we need to really catch up with some of these big

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[Unknown5]: players but you know we have

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[Unknown5]: a great supportive community we have about twenty five thousand videos that have

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[Unknown6]: have a great support community we have about twenty five thousand and you

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[Unknown5]: been uploaded and

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[Unknown6]: two three a for you

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[Unknown5]: we're doing and now we just released a new feature for

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[Unknown5]: playlist kind of like spotify but with video content of where you want to go next

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[Unknown6]: complain them sp by

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[Unknown5]: so you can actually save and book playlists sort through content you can say i

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[Unknown6]: nine one

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[Unknown5]: watch video content of different

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[Unknown6]: why

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[Unknown6]: that's so cool okay so now i wanna take you back okay so you're you were in new

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[Unknown6]: york city for sixteen years you worked for the record label when did you when did

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[Unknown6]: and was it were you kind of doing the same i mean a lot of times entrepreneur

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[Unknown6]: they're you know they're like okay i have my full time job which i like or you

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[Unknown6]: know i'm i'm interested in however i have this passion here that i want to follow

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[Unknown6]: so they kind of do it kind of together we always say don't quit that other job

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[Unknown6]: that's giving you the money because you need that money to put into you know

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[Unknown5]: you know platform you know they all told me well you need to be insta famous it

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[Unknown5]: i'm like maybe i'd need to become a travel influencer but i'm never going to be

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[Unknown6]: and i think i

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[Unknown5]: i am genuine i'm gonna show it like it is and give me the real experience and the

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[Unknown6]: twenty seventeen i had not decided what i want right

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[Unknown5]: seventeen i had not decided what i wanted to do next i was still consulting and

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[Unknown5]: directing music videos and commercials for artists like jason

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[Unknown6]: well

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[Unknown5]: moraz and working with companies like b

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[Unknown6]: but yeah

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[Unknown5]: my record

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[Unknown6]: what do i do candor up

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[Unknown5]: labels competitor in canada and so i've been consulting with them now since twenty

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[Unknown6]: why

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[Unknown6]: b as in we have

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[Unknown5]: in twenty seventeen i was really starting to toy at this

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[Unknown6]: australia is

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[Unknown5]: idea eighteen i put down the first money for research and

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[Unknown6]: develop without

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[Unknown6]: model

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[Unknown5]: models twenty

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[Unknown6]: twenty nineteen very very one for four

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[Unknown6]: uh that mean that the d five

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[Unknown5]: traveling and met a danish guy we were nearly to be

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[Unknown5]: married i was living in denmark with him and april first of twenty

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[Unknown6]: scary living in den

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[Unknown6]: twenty nineteen

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[Unknown5]: you know there was something at me and said you know i

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[Unknown6]: i'm just getting a lot of

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[Unknown5]: was giving a lot to this relationship and

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[Unknown5]: i'm taking everything back and putting it all in me now and that's

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[Unknown6]: can everything back

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[Unknown6]: that i

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[Unknown5]: when i went out and i raised a quarter million dollars i

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[Unknown6]: like

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[Unknown5]: went out there and i said you know what

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[Unknown6]: one one year i

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[Unknown5]: in one year i am going to re release this app april first twenty twenty well the

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[Unknown5]: april fools joke was on me because two weeks before covid hits the us so i took

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[Unknown5]: the new tech team and

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[Unknown6]: and i four call

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[Unknown5]: i cold called every influencer aka through instagram

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[Unknown6]: brown

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[Unknown5]: hitting up messengers and said

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[Unknown6]: instead

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[Unknown5]: i know that you cannot travel right now so i want to give you an opportunity to

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[Unknown5]: monetize your past video content upload it to nady savvy and we'll pay you per

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[Unknown5]: clip you up

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[Unknown6]: so smart

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[Unknown5]: and that was a absolute you know we were one of the travel companies that made it

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[Unknown5]: through covid because

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[Unknown5]: of this and it only garnered us more time and attention to

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[Unknown6]: to say oh

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[Unknown5]: say all right we're onto something here and last year was really just a big focus

462

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[Unknown5]: and push on creating content and uploading content because it's really chicken or

463

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[Unknown5]: the egg you know and those digital nomads backpackers

464

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[Unknown6]: what

465

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[Unknown5]: content creators were out there traveling you know they were

466

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[Unknown6]: they were

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[Unknown5]: kind of the forward front of those people and myself included and

468

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[Unknown6]: and they

469

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[Unknown5]: then from there we kind of decided all al

470

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[Unknown6]: on t here now now this year

471

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[Unknown5]: right well from here on out now this year i think travel's coming back and we call

472

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[Unknown5]: it revenge travel

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[Unknown6]: yeah

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[Unknown5]: everyone saying i haven't been anywhere and i just got a rebate from the

475

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[Unknown5]: government so let's go you know and now is our time that we're really pushing

476

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[Unknown5]: after the consumer market and that is really just to give everybody

477

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[Unknown6]: okay i i really just to give everybody

478

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[Unknown5]: their time back they're you be able to see the experiences quickly so they can

479

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[Unknown5]: actually go enjoy them you know

480

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[Unknown6]: right yeah and you know what and i you know everyone that knows this podcast that

481

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[Unknown6]: listens to this podcast knows that i truly believe there's a reason that happens

482

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[Unknown6]: and sometimes we don't know what it is

483

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[Unknown5]: yes

484

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[Unknown6]: but you know covid obviously didn't happen to stop you from you know opening the

485

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[Unknown6]: app and then to research it more but there was something there that was meant you

486

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[Unknown6]: know whether it's the

487

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[Unknown5]: mhm

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[Unknown6]: god or universe that was

489

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[Unknown5]: yep

490

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[Unknown6]: like okay you need to pause this because this is good but i want you to fine tune

491

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[Unknown6]: it and so you had

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[Unknown5]: yes

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[Unknown6]: to pivot what do you think

494

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[Unknown6]: if you can think back to your upbring in your childhood or even your business

495

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[Unknown6]: world what do you think has given you that that grit that like you know i'm not

496

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[Unknown6]: gonna stop like where do you think you get that from do you think you were born

497

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[Unknown6]: with it do you think you learned it

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[Unknown5]: i think it's a

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[Unknown6]: combination

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[Unknown5]: combination nature versus nurture but also

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[Unknown6]: also

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[Unknown5]: you know my parents

503

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[Unknown5]: advocates for when you work hard good things come you

504

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[Unknown6]: you know

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[Unknown5]: know and to not give up and you know

506

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[Unknown6]: you know we never talked entire life

507

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[Unknown5]: for me losing was never an option i've been competitive my entire life i played

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[Unknown5]: all

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[Unknown5]: sports you you know i always said if somebody knocked me down

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[Unknown6]: important you know i always

511

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[Unknown6]: down by this

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[Unknown5]: or tried to you know

513

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[Unknown5]: let me know it only made me that much more get up and work that much harder to

514

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[Unknown5]: prove people wrong and that is just a drive

515

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[Unknown6]: why

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[Unknown5]: in an energy that

517

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[Unknown6]: did i is

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[Unknown5]: i have i've had my entire life and that was even when i was in nebraska it was

519

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[Unknown5]: like i i know there's something more and i will not stop until i find it and i get

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[Unknown5]: it and

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[Unknown6]: right

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[Unknown5]: you know i think that passion and drive i could have quit this idea in twenty

523

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[Unknown5]: thirteen and fourteen after a few knows and

524

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[Unknown6]: and you know it i think it's easy to get more

525

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[Unknown5]: you know i think it's being i always say the good lord bless me the two things

526

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[Unknown5]: being in the right place at the right time but never being scared to say hello

527

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[Unknown5]: which is a

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[Unknown6]: yep

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[Unknown5]: very much nebraska a attribute and i just was like you know i've made myself a lot

530

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[Unknown5]: of

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[Unknown5]: i say

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[Unknown6]: see what you want to do

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[Unknown5]: luck is also you know you make your own luck and that is what i have done and

534

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[Unknown6]: light

535

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[Unknown5]: tried and continually

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[Unknown5]: capitalized on is

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[Unknown6]: white

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[Unknown6]: i i tell everyone my name

539

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[Unknown5]: i'm gonna tell everyone my dreams because you never know who the right person is

540

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[Unknown5]: it's going to turn around and say i can help you and you know it's it's really

541

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[Unknown5]: about i always say also you meet people for a reason a season or a lifetime and you

542

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[Unknown5]: do not know until it's all done and

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[Unknown5]: you know i just keep living my life in this like

544

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[Unknown6]: and i see my life

545

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[Unknown5]: i'm out here lord like

546

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[Unknown6]: find out more

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[Unknown5]: make something happen great together

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[Unknown6]: right right no it's so true and so i would love to ask you because this is one of

549

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[Unknown6]: the things that this is a theme on the podcast is i'm a huge component to

550

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[Unknown6]: daydreaming whether you

551

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[Unknown5]: who

552

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[Unknown6]: call it meditating daydreaming i call it daydreaming and i also i think it's

553

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[Unknown6]: really important to find that space that works for you so like for me if i sat in

554

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[Unknown6]: a room and closed my eyes and and it was quiet it would be like i would think of

555

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[Unknown6]: everything that i had to do i want to get to the space where i can be creative so

556

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[Unknown6]: for me it's walking the dogs i walk my dogs i create in my mind you know i have my

557

00:21:40,502 --> 00:21:44,102

[Unknown6]: phone so if i need if i have an idea i'm like wait let me jot it down i voice text

558

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[Unknown6]: it and it's a really important thing and i don't think people are doing this

559

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[Unknown6]: enough because people are afraid of the the failures or oh i don't deserve that

560

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[Unknown6]: but i love to go out there and really create things in my mind what can i do how

561

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[Unknown6]: do i want my life to look what do i want for my kids what do i want for my husband

562

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[Unknown5]: mhm

563

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[Unknown6]: and when you put it out there whether you it's through the universe or god whoever

564

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[Unknown6]: you think of a lot of times

565

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[Unknown5]: what

566

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[Unknown6]: if you have one of those dreams and you're like let me take a little action

567

00:22:08,662 --> 00:22:11,702

[Unknown6]: because that's the important part you can dream it but if you don't take steps

568

00:22:11,782 --> 00:22:16,422

[Unknown6]: you're not gonna ever see where it goes so where do you do that for yourself do

569

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[Unknown6]: you have that time where you

570

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[Unknown5]: thank you

571

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[Unknown6]: daydream and you create in your mind

572

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[Unknown5]: i think it i can remember the point

573

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[Unknown5]: exactly when i was laying in my backyard as a kid and looking up

574

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[Unknown6]: exact i like my

575

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[Unknown6]: i'm sorry you

576

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[Unknown5]: the stars which are amazing in middle of nebraska there are no stoplights hardly

577

00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,960

[Unknown5]: you know there's nothing out here and seeing that universe and and i

578

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[Unknown6]: i remember air

579

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[Unknown5]: remember seeing these airplanes fly over and i thought i

580

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[Unknown6]: i see

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[Unknown5]: wanna to be on those someday i

582

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[Unknown6]: i want to be that going

583

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[Unknown5]: want to be that person that's going somewhere constantly and

584

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[Unknown6]: and you know i

585

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[Unknown5]: you know i've also you know i

586

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[Unknown6]: i i like

587

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[Unknown5]: absolutely idolized david letterman growing up and that was a

588

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[Unknown6]: dre

589

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[Unknown5]: dream and i just thought alright if that's what i want you know that's what i'm

590

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[Unknown5]: gonna go for and sometimes that path wasn't as always clear

591

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[Unknown5]: cut or exactly as i thought but you know there's there's definitely

592

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[Unknown6]: cause i like you know

593

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[Unknown6]: s

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[Unknown5]: it's a vision that i feel that i have and i have almost a weird six sense

595

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[Unknown6]: in that i feel that i have and i

596

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[Unknown6]: that's just like i know like i'm gonna one end of to of my know and i think have

597

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[Unknown5]: of like i know like i'm gonna run into someone i know and i do in a on in an

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[Unknown6]: the airport

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[Unknown5]: airport in a third world country you're just like

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[Unknown6]: oh

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[Unknown5]: how is this but it's part

602

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[Unknown6]: want you know

603

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[Unknown5]: of you you know you just have these senses and you've got to follow

604

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[Unknown6]: oh you are can believe that one

605

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[Unknown5]: your heart and what you believe and that path is not going to be easy i and

606

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[Unknown5]: funny enough i turn my camera i have all these posted

607

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[Unknown6]: funny that like my camera

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[Unknown5]: notes of things for my goals for navy savvy for twenty twenty personal goals for

609

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[Unknown6]: to me like la stabbing curs

610

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[Unknown5]: twenty twenty and i have something in front of me that says success is an

611

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[Unknown5]: overnight it's when every day you get a little better than before it adds up and

612

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[Unknown6]: open it would every day together

613

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[Unknown6]: i love that

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[Unknown5]: i keep these motivations around me and you know i came back also i'm at my

615

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[Unknown5]: parents' house now but you know it's kind of my home base because i needed to come

616

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[Unknown6]: turn come out but you know

617

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[Unknown5]: home to have a support system because

618

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[Unknown5]: you get out on the road and times get tough sometimes you just need some money

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[Unknown6]: can we get out on the road

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[Unknown5]: that

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[Unknown5]: grounds you and my parents my dad will be the first save now don't you forget

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00:23:58,822 --> 00:24:03,462

[Unknown6]: bing and like car went down to the first thing don't you forget where you came

623

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[Unknown5]: where you came from kid i'm like i know i

624

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[Unknown6]: from

625

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[Unknown6]: i

626

00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,560

[Unknown5]: know i've partied with the biggest celebrities and traveled the world but you know

627

00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,320

[Unknown5]: the world is a book and if you've never

628

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[Unknown6]: never

629

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[Unknown5]: left where you're from you've only read the first page

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[Unknown6]: she has you know understanding that point community you may not

631

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[Unknown5]: and you know understanding that my community here may not have had those

632

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[Unknown5]: opportunities but you

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[Unknown6]: you know it's not

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[Unknown5]: know it's not by sometimes

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[Unknown6]: twice or

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[Unknown5]: choice or you know no

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[Unknown5]: desire or education it's you know

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[Unknown5]: desire or education it's you know

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[Unknown6]: five or

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00:24:24,582 --> 00:24:26,582

[Unknown6]: you know bringing in company

641

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[Unknown5]: bringing and encompassing everything that i have

642

00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,920

[Unknown5]: learned along the way and sharing that with the people i know and i love like and

643

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[Unknown6]: learn along the way and tearing up know i love bike and that was also the a

644

00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600

[Unknown5]: that's also what the app is about you know sharing my own experiences for others

645

00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,280

[Unknown5]: to enjoy and so

646

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[Unknown6]: no i yeah yeah i love the idea and i'm more huge travelers i mean so i i love that

647

00:24:41,062 --> 00:24:45,382

[Unknown6]: i can't wait to like really dive into it so you know there's a a couple things i

648

00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:48,502

[Unknown6]: first want you to shout out where people can find you because if anyone's you know

649

00:24:48,582 --> 00:24:52,022

[Unknown6]: my listeners are like me and we're like well we want to look as we listen to like

650

00:24:52,022 --> 00:24:54,182

[Unknown6]: you know navigate stuff so where can they find you

651

00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,360

[Unknown5]: absolutely well the app is navi

652

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[Unknown5]: savvy app and navi savi is navi

653

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[Unknown6]: want that have you

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[Unknown6]: five everything want

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[Unknown5]: s v i thought a play on navigation savvis and then as they call me rally sally i

656

00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,120

[Unknown5]: seem to like how things were off the tongue but you can follow me on instagram at

657

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[Unknown5]: sally beell bull and

658

00:25:16,802 --> 00:25:17,802

[Unknown6]: and that so

659

00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,800

[Unknown5]: same navy savvy travel as well on instagram and that's kind of our two main

660

00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,400

[Unknown5]: platforms the app is available on ios or android so everybody can download it we

661

00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:27,460

[Unknown5]: actually are just pushing

662

00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,160

[Unknown5]: on a new version this week so yeah

663

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[Unknown6]: had a version of the so

664

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[Unknown6]: yeah

665

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[Unknown5]: stay tuned or

666

00:25:31,002 --> 00:25:32,002

[Unknown6]: for

667

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[Unknown5]: even getting better and every day

668

00:25:33,302 --> 00:25:36,342

[Unknown6]: today but you know we can get this not work

669

00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,760

[Unknown5]: but you know we we understand that we're not perfect and if you want to be one of

670

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[Unknown5]: those early

671

00:25:38,102 --> 00:25:39,702

[Unknown6]: for the doctor will join

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00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,400

[Unknown5]: adopters it really joins a community of trust and you know that

673

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[Unknown6]: the character

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[Unknown5]: care for each other come to navy savvy grow with us you know we're here to help

675

00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:48,140

[Unknown5]: everybody

676

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[Unknown6]: everybody my hu

677

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[Unknown5]: and i've had too many you

678

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[Unknown5]: know people tell me well you can't be switzerland you can't help the people and

679

00:25:49,942 --> 00:25:52,662

[Unknown6]: you know people tell me what family in switzerland

680

00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,920

[Unknown5]: the customers and the yourself and the businesses and i said well i'm gonna sure

681

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[Unknown5]: as he'll try so

682

00:25:58,902 --> 00:26:02,422

[Unknown6]: well that's what well that's the thing why not why why do we have to do things the

683

00:26:02,422 --> 00:26:05,702

[Unknown6]: same that everyone's always been doing that's where like big ideas have come out

684

00:26:05,862 --> 00:26:08,902

[Unknown6]: of people you know testing the waters and being bold

685

00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:09,500

[Unknown5]: yes

686

00:26:08,982 --> 00:26:12,982

[Unknown6]: and being bright and not being afraid of failure and really taking those steps to

687

00:26:13,062 --> 00:26:16,982

[Unknown6]: be like no i want to be better i want something better for the world so

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00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:17,580

[Unknown5]: yeah

689

00:26:17,222 --> 00:26:20,182

[Unknown6]: i i would love also to ask you and now i'm not going to ask you where your

690

00:26:20,262 --> 00:26:23,302

[Unknown6]: favorite place is because i'm sure you've been to so many places but where are

691

00:26:23,382 --> 00:26:26,182

[Unknown6]: some of the places that you can think of at the top of your head that were the

692

00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:27,042

[Unknown6]: most memorable

693

00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,520

[Unknown5]: yes well a couple off top my head myanmar a former burma i was there right as

694

00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,960

[Unknown5]: tourism opened um in two thousand what was it ten

695

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[Unknown6]: one

696

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[Unknown5]: eleven twelve somewhere in there and

697

00:26:38,922 --> 00:26:39,922

[Unknown6]: and

698

00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,200

[Unknown5]: i remember having i was in a market and i had this happen to me constantly and

699

00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,440

[Unknown5]: people would hold up their babies to touch my hair they'd never seen somebody with

700

00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,880

[Unknown5]: blonde hair did line

701

00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:51,442

[Unknown6]: right

702

00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280

[Unknown5]: up with photos like and they were so

703

00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:57,220

[Unknown5]: not i guess

704

00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:57,682

[Unknown6]: i guess

705

00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480

[Unknown5]: i never experienced tourism and they

706

00:27:00,362 --> 00:27:01,362

[Unknown6]: you mind

707

00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,200

[Unknown5]: were the kindest welcomes you know

708

00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:04,262

[Unknown6]: your people with just

709

00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,480

[Unknown5]: people that just wanted to share their own story in their country with somebody

710

00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:07,260

[Unknown5]: else

711

00:27:06,802 --> 00:27:07,802

[Unknown6]: and that was

712

00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,400

[Unknown5]: and that was an amazing opportunity

713

00:27:08,602 --> 00:27:09,602

[Unknown6]: well

714

00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:14,240

[Unknown5]: and some of the other places i'll never forget obviously i was blind and loud for

715

00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:23,600

[Unknown5]: three days because i was river tubing i've had a stomach aeacus right there

716

00:27:23,062 --> 00:27:26,662

[Unknown6]: oh we'll we'll have to haves and i think we talk to i'll have you on the live show

717

00:27:26,742 --> 00:27:28,262

[Unknown6]: to tell some of those stories that would be fun

718

00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,000

[Unknown5]: oh yes usually do much better with a a beer in my hand but that's a happy hour

719

00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:34,860

[Unknown5]: time but

720

00:27:34,522 --> 00:27:35,522

[Unknown6]: yes

721

00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,480

[Unknown5]: no i mean just the experience that i've had and you know people said you're still

722

00:27:38,642 --> 00:27:39,642

[Unknown6]: my young

723

00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400

[Unknown5]: traveling after all this and it's like

724

00:27:40,422 --> 00:27:42,022

[Unknown6]: like why not you know like

725

00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,440

[Unknown5]: why not you know i can be just as have just

726

00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,680

[Unknown5]: as many things happen to me in new york city as i can you know in nebraska or

727

00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:45,622

[Unknown6]: just c be in new york city

728

00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,240

[Unknown5]: somewhere over the world so i'm quite well versed on you know travel insurance in

729

00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:53,620

[Unknown5]: multiple countries so

730

00:27:55,142 --> 00:27:58,822

[Unknown6]: i love that i love it and what was the first place and i think you mentioned that

731

00:27:58,822 --> 00:28:01,542

[Unknown6]: at in the beginning but i would love your touch it the first place that you went

732

00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800

[Unknown5]: so my first plane ride

733

00:28:04,362 --> 00:28:05,362

[Unknown6]: w

734

00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,880

[Unknown5]: i believe was to san diego that was my first plane ride

735

00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,360

[Unknown5]: and i connected in phoenix and i remember i puked on the plane and then it only

736

00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,440

[Unknown5]: got went up hill from there and then the first actual place that i went was um

737

00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,320

[Unknown5]: vancouver canada to visit a friend that i knew from from over the over the border

738

00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,680

[Unknown5]: so that was i thought well this is an easier start you know like and

739

00:28:25,242 --> 00:28:26,242

[Unknown6]: right

740

00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,240

[Unknown5]: i i sit on panels all the time they say well i want a solo travel how do i start

741

00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,680

[Unknown5]: and i said go somewhere that speaks your language first like situations

742

00:28:35,522 --> 00:28:36,522

[Unknown6]: i think

743

00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,760

[Unknown5]: are gonna arise and you throw language into that that's a whole nother level of

744

00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,440

[Unknown5]: trying to ask for help you know

745

00:28:41,402 --> 00:28:42,402

[Unknown6]: right

746

00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,240

[Unknown5]: in in spanish it's not just help though you know like you got to

747

00:28:45,802 --> 00:28:46,802

[Unknown6]: right

748

00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,640

[Unknown5]: take it up a not so so that's you know probably my biggest suggestions but you

749

00:28:50,322 --> 00:28:51,322

[Unknown6]: you know

750

00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400

[Unknown5]: know start with and also where you have friends and have that community of you're

751

00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,840

[Unknown5]: not going at it completely alone but you can still venture out on your own so

752

00:28:58,102 --> 00:29:02,102

[Unknown6]: i love that so what are some what are some of the advice that you can share two

753

00:29:02,322 --> 00:29:03,322

[Unknown6]: two twofold here

754

00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:04,380

[Unknown5]: um

755

00:29:04,022 --> 00:29:08,422

[Unknown6]: when starting you know when you have an idea what is the first what is the most

756

00:29:08,662 --> 00:29:11,862

[Unknown6]: important thing like the first step for like my listeners to think about because

757

00:29:11,722 --> 00:29:12,722

[Unknown6]: there's so many

758

00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,100

[Unknown5]: eight

759

00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:15,782

[Unknown6]: people that we create so many people have ideas and they do nothing to it i always

760

00:29:15,460 --> 00:29:16,460

[Unknown5]: mhm

761

00:29:15,942 --> 00:29:19,142

[Unknown6]: say take action but what what is like one and a little bit of advice that you can

762

00:29:19,222 --> 00:29:21,622

[Unknown6]: give them like is the first thing that you suggest they do

763

00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:23,500

[Unknown5]: write it down

764

00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:25,340

[Unknown5]: write

765

00:29:24,902 --> 00:29:27,702

[Unknown6]: white visualized wire plan and everything

766

00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,200

[Unknown5]: visualize the wire frames or whatever you're thinking put pen

767

00:29:29,042 --> 00:29:30,042

[Unknown6]: in the paper

768

00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,000

[Unknown5]: the paper and share it with those around you and anyone that does not support your

769

00:29:32,182 --> 00:29:34,422

[Unknown6]: and if one should not support your idea

770

00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:34,780

[Unknown5]: idea

771

00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,080

[Unknown5]: you keep moving on to other people find people that connect with what you're doing

772

00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:40,780

[Unknown5]: because

773

00:29:40,162 --> 00:29:41,162

[Unknown6]: if i had

774

00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,480

[Unknown5]: i had jet blue ventures sit across to the me and they said video's too expensive i

775

00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,720

[Unknown5]: said then you don't get it you don't see what's coming

776

00:29:46,442 --> 00:29:47,442

[Unknown6]: right

777

00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,480

[Unknown5]: and you know and i think it's finding those people that believe

778

00:29:50,582 --> 00:29:55,782

[Unknown6]: believe in you and give you the opportunities like watch radio fiction did not you

779

00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,720

[Unknown5]: in you and will give you those first opportunities my boss at the radio station

780

00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,840

[Unknown5]: did that you know i have only surrounded with people that support my ideas and my

781

00:29:55,782 --> 00:29:57,222

[Unknown6]: know i am really surrounded

782

00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760

[Unknown5]: vision and where i'm going and everyone

783

00:30:01,722 --> 00:30:02,722

[Unknown6]: else

784

00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,240

[Unknown5]: else they can be left in the dust that's fine doesn't mean they're not friends

785

00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,080

[Unknown5]: anymore but you're i'm not going to keep moving forward with with negativity in my

786

00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,240

[Unknown5]: head and then i would say just talk to people and google things i have you can sit

787

00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,120

[Unknown5]: and basically get a college education on starting a business just by typing into

788

00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,100

[Unknown5]: youtube into

789

00:30:21,962 --> 00:30:22,962

[Unknown6]: yes

790

00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,280

[Unknown5]: google into all of these platforms and you know i i did an absolutely career

791

00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,880

[Unknown5]: change i come from music and video and all of this but you know i started a

792

00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,640

[Unknown5]: technology travel which i worked not

793

00:30:36,282 --> 00:30:37,282

[Unknown6]: want

794

00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,640

[Unknown5]: in the industry side of travel it's completely different and technology and being

795

00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:41,340

[Unknown5]: a woman

796

00:30:40,982 --> 00:30:46,262

[Unknown6]: women that i you know it and the lot of people g

797

00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,760

[Unknown5]: in tech that's all you know in fundraising and you know a lot of people are coming

798

00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,600

[Unknown5]: and said well you know we need to support female founders and blah blah blah and i

799

00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,680

[Unknown5]: said i'm not a female founder i am a founder and if you cannot see past everything

800

00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,400

[Unknown5]: else pass the idea and the vision you know i've sat in a lot of boardrooms in new

801

00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100

[Unknown5]: york city

802

00:30:58,522 --> 00:30:59,522

[Unknown6]: city

803

00:30:58,860 --> 00:30:59,860

[Unknown5]: and said

804

00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,440

[Unknown5]: i'm right here i'm talking the exact same you can i will stop the meeting until

805

00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,880

[Unknown5]: you're ready to pay attention and

806

00:31:06,682 --> 00:31:07,682

[Unknown6]: i love it

807

00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,560

[Unknown5]: i've done that for executives and i said you know you're wasting my

808

00:31:10,122 --> 00:31:11,122

[Unknown6]: like

809

00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,560

[Unknown5]: time too we equally are important if we're going to move this forward so you

810

00:31:14,242 --> 00:31:15,242

[Unknown6]: you know

811

00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,560

[Unknown5]: know it's just and that took a lot of thick skin i remember my first coming from

812

00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,200

[Unknown5]: nebraska and okay you know and it's like eventually you have to get that backbone

813

00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,520

[Unknown5]: and stand up to people whether it's in technology you know a lot of people i knew

814

00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,200

[Unknown5]: nothing about tech and they really tried to take me for a ride you know i don't

815

00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,800

[Unknown5]: name names i just move on and there's a bunch of people as well

816

00:31:34,442 --> 00:31:35,442

[Unknown6]: all

817

00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:35,660

[Unknown5]: that you know

818

00:31:35,802 --> 00:31:36,802

[Unknown6]: is the

819

00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,080

[Unknown5]: investors a bunch of this you know and it's

820

00:31:37,722 --> 00:31:38,722

[Unknown6]: like

821

00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320

[Unknown5]: like alright then you're not in my circle so i'd say that's probably the biggest

822

00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,240

[Unknown5]: thing that you can do anything i had i couldn't even turn on my own computer for

823

00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,920

[Unknown5]: the most part of the record label so if

824

00:31:47,942 --> 00:31:49,222

[Unknown6]: if i technology

825

00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,960

[Unknown5]: i'm creating a technology travel app and learning me ins and out anybody can do it

826

00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:53,660

[Unknown5]: you

827

00:31:52,922 --> 00:31:53,922

[Unknown6]: guess it

828

00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,440

[Unknown5]: know and you just have to surround yourself with great people and find those that

829

00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,800

[Unknown5]: you can trust because they'll lead you to the right people to help you build your

830

00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600

[Unknown5]: team and you know really support you as you grow

831

00:32:03,702 --> 00:32:06,582

[Unknown6]: and that's where and that's where you know again we talk about all the time and i

832

00:32:06,582 --> 00:32:09,142

[Unknown6]: love how you just laid that out but it's really important about finding your

833

00:32:09,222 --> 00:32:12,342

[Unknown6]: strengths and weaknesses and then finding those people that as you said support

834

00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:16,742

[Unknown6]: you because when you have an idea and this is what i say all the time you have to

835

00:32:16,822 --> 00:32:20,342

[Unknown6]: ask questions but a lot of people are scared to ask questions like i always say

836

00:32:20,902 --> 00:32:24,022

[Unknown6]: you're one question away from a different life you could be right and

837

00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:24,700

[Unknown5]: yeah

838

00:32:24,502 --> 00:32:27,862

[Unknown6]: and so many people are afraid to ask those questions because they don't want to

839

00:32:27,862 --> 00:32:30,742

[Unknown6]: look stupid or they don't want someone to say what is that but that's where you

840

00:32:30,822 --> 00:32:34,102

[Unknown6]: have to believe in yourself that's where you have to go internally and say no i

841

00:32:34,102 --> 00:32:38,102

[Unknown6]: can do this i truly believe that this is what i want to do and sometimes it might

842

00:32:38,262 --> 00:32:40,342

[Unknown6]: not but why not try don't let someone

843

00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,100

[Unknown5]: y

844

00:32:40,502 --> 00:32:41,942

[Unknown6]: else stop you and that's what i

845

00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:42,620

[Unknown5]: yeah

846

00:32:42,022 --> 00:32:45,622

[Unknown6]: will say all the time go to google ask google if you are like nervous to ask a

847

00:32:45,702 --> 00:32:47,142

[Unknown6]: person or you don't know where to

848

00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:47,980

[Unknown5]: mm hm

849

00:32:47,222 --> 00:32:51,542

[Unknown6]: go you ask google you kind of do a little market research before you jump in so i

850

00:32:51,702 --> 00:32:54,822

[Unknown6]: absolutely love that advice can you share again sally where people can find you

851

00:32:54,902 --> 00:32:56,982

[Unknown6]: and then of course if you have something to comment on that

852

00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,840

[Unknown5]: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course you can find us at navi savvy a app n a v i

853

00:33:01,922 --> 00:33:02,922

[Unknown6]: i as y

854

00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,600

[Unknown5]: s avi ap com were also available on android we're on

855

00:33:07,622 --> 00:33:09,942

[Unknown6]: on my left my p i was

856

00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,280

[Unknown5]: ios devices you can follow us at navi savvy travel on instagram and if you want to

857

00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,640

[Unknown5]: give me a personal shout out

858

00:33:14,202 --> 00:33:15,202

[Unknown6]: out

859

00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,840

[Unknown5]: you can always find me at sally beell on ig so i'm always on there doing something

860

00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,720

[Unknown5]: wild and crazy so you know join the join the journey along with everything but you

861

00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,040

[Unknown5]: know getting back to what you had mentioned briefly but you know never being

862

00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,520

[Unknown5]: scared to say hello i've sat next to some of the most important people on

863

00:33:33,642 --> 00:33:34,642

[Unknown6]: please

864

00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,760

[Unknown5]: airplanes that have become some of my best

865

00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:36,722

[Unknown6]: spread

866

00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,680

[Unknown5]: friends investors business

867

00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:38,722

[Unknown6]: was

868

00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,840

[Unknown5]: partners just by saying hello and you know

869

00:33:41,722 --> 00:33:42,722

[Unknown6]: i love that

870

00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,040

[Unknown5]: don't have to be that chatty cat and everything but you know sometimes it's some

871

00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,160

[Unknown5]: of the most memorable people that i have and like you know intelligent just it's

872

00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:53,140

[Unknown5]: insane the people

873

00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,400

[Unknown5]: i meet everyone from a royal in you know from the royal family and had no clue you

874

00:33:53,222 --> 00:33:55,142

[Unknown6]: quite everyone wants to royal

875

00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,440

[Unknown5]: know of just being myself and you know i think it all comes back to you and those

876

00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,360

[Unknown5]: are the connections that you have that you can build on this time as time goes on

877

00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,080

[Unknown5]: so you know just don't stop

878

00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:10,982

[Unknown6]: right and it's it's the networking don't stop and

879

00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:11,660

[Unknown5]: yes

880

00:34:11,062 --> 00:34:15,302

[Unknown6]: that's exactly and i love that you said you know 'cause i truly believe this too

881

00:34:15,782 --> 00:34:18,902

[Unknown6]: that you know if you're qualified and when you when you said you're in the

882

00:34:18,902 --> 00:34:22,742

[Unknown6]: boardroom and you'd be like no no hello it's it things have shifted but it needs

883

00:34:22,822 --> 00:34:26,262

[Unknown6]: to shift any more and it could go for a man or a woman it doesn't matter like i'm

884

00:34:26,342 --> 00:34:29,702

[Unknown6]: talking to all of it it's when someone's talking we can all learn from each other

885

00:34:29,682 --> 00:34:30,682

[Unknown6]: we all have

886

00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,100

[Unknown5]: yeah

887

00:34:30,662 --> 00:34:32,742

[Unknown6]: stories we all bring something to table whether

888

00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:33,500

[Unknown5]: no

889

00:34:32,902 --> 00:34:34,982

[Unknown6]: we're a janitor or a president of a company

890

00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:35,580

[Unknown5]: yeah

891

00:34:35,622 --> 00:34:37,782

[Unknown6]: and people all need to do that i can't stand

892

00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:38,380

[Unknown5]: y

893

00:34:38,022 --> 00:34:42,022

[Unknown6]: it when someone some pre judges someone because of whether their status where they

894

00:34:42,102 --> 00:34:45,462

[Unknown6]: are in the world because you don't know what they lived you don't know what they

895

00:34:45,622 --> 00:34:46,902

[Unknown6]: can teach you and if you

896

00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:47,580

[Unknown5]: no

897

00:34:47,062 --> 00:34:50,662

[Unknown6]: just listen and open your ears and give them the same respect that you you know

898

00:34:51,062 --> 00:34:54,422

[Unknown6]: respect that you expect from someone else you're going to learn something and be a

899

00:34:54,502 --> 00:34:58,662

[Unknown6]: better person so i love that you would stand up for yourself and say hey no i i

900

00:34:58,822 --> 00:35:01,942

[Unknown6]: actually know what i'm talking about you know you can listen to me good for you

901

00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,560

[Unknown5]: but i i also do that with my team and you

902

00:35:04,202 --> 00:35:05,202

[Unknown6]: you know

903

00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,600

[Unknown5]: know i don't come in and pretend to know everything about my demographic that i'm

904

00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,760

[Unknown5]: targeting i have interns

905

00:35:11,322 --> 00:35:12,322

[Unknown6]: and

906

00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,760

[Unknown5]: and they are some of the brightest people that come in and said well why wouldn't

907

00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,680

[Unknown5]: you do this with the app that's what tick tock does so that's and i'm like perfect

908

00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,720

[Unknown5]: i want ideas it's not a top down management style it is a community in every

909

00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,680

[Unknown5]: aspect of every way we're all contributing to this app and they're all part of the

910

00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,840

[Unknown5]: family that helps us grow and i think

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[Unknown6]: you know that

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[Unknown5]: you know that's also just being a leader and

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[Unknown6]: yes

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[Unknown5]: putting you know i i can tell you a lot of bosses i don't want to be like and that

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[Unknown5]: has really shaped the boss i've wanted to become

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[Unknown5]: you

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[Unknown6]: you know what i think having a

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[Unknown5]: know and i think having that mutual respect for everybody on your team and

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[Unknown6]: i a lot

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[Unknown5]: i've worked for a lot of

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[Unknown5]: people during my times and celebrities and see how different people treat people

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[Unknown5]: and i thought there's no need for that

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[Unknown6]: right

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[Unknown5]: absolutely no need for that because you never know which one of those interns is

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[Unknown5]: going to be your next boss not serious

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[Unknown6]: right

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[Unknown5]: you never know and one other point i wanted to add is you know when it comes to

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[Unknown5]: people shooting you down in your ideas you know the only person that can really

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[Unknown6]: stop you

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[Unknown5]: stop you is yourself and it is based on your

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[Unknown6]: replies that it might be

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[Unknown5]: drive of there might be a million doors and you can knock on them but some you

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[Unknown5]: just have to kick in you know

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[Unknown6]: i love it

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[Unknown5]: and when you go for it it's you just have to keep knocking and being a salesperson

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[Unknown5]: and an advocate for yourself and your business

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[Unknown6]: like i

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[Unknown5]: like i talk about navi savvy every day with the exact same passion never do

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[Unknown6]: do i

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[Unknown5]: i say i'm going to i'm like today i'm gonna talk about videos i'm going to talk

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[Unknown5]: with juliet and i am miss pumped every damn day i wake up to talk my vision and

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[Unknown5]: what i want to do because i'm creating this app for myself i saw a need in the

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[Unknown5]: market and i identified

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[Unknown6]: of

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[Unknown5]: hundreds of others that feel the same way in our community and we can't wait to

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[Unknown5]: just finely share this with the world like

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[Unknown6]: and i yeah

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[Unknown5]: it's i'm just so pumped

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[Unknown6]: but that but you can see it and that's what's so exciting and that's why i have

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[Unknown6]: this show because i want other people to see hey you can have this love you can

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[Unknown6]: have this energy you can have this drive if you follow what you're meant to do and

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[Unknown6]: what you want to do and what your dreams are don't let the society we all you know

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[Unknown6]: we all have one life don't let society or your fears stop you and get in your way

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[Unknown6]: so you know it sally we could do this all day but i definitely am going to have

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[Unknown6]: you on the live show so we could talk about like more of you know some really

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[Unknown6]: impersonal stuff that you did when you were traveling

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[Unknown6]: and get some of the grit of that in those stories but thank

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[Unknown5]: i've got a book coming on that

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[Unknown6]: you so much for joining yeah yeah no and thank you so much for joining your next

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[Unknown6]: stop and sharing your story

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[Unknown5]: thank you so much for allowing me to be on the show i've absolutely enjoyed it

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[Unknown6]: yes guys you know what to do like share rate and review and i say this every

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[Unknown6]: single time someone needs to hear this you might be listening and saying oh i'm in

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[Unknown6]: the spot that i want but you know what you don't know if your neighbor is your

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[Unknown6]: sister is you don't know what your dad your cousin your aunt uncle someone needs

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[Unknown6]: to hear this so i want you guys to go and share this with

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[Unknown5]: great

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[Unknown6]: three people and you know what else which is really cool there's the new app

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[Unknown6]: picked cherries where if you don't want to share the whole episode 'cause you're

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[Unknown6]: like oh they might not listen to sally literally said some huge gems i mean

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[Unknown6]: there's so many gems you can go to pick cherries but you can download on ios or

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[Unknown6]: android and you can take that little snippet and send it to all the people that

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[Unknown6]: you want because those little snippets i mean everything that sally said i'm

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[Unknown6]: thinking of all the quotes that we're going to be able to highlight i mean are

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[Unknown6]: just brilliant so take go to pict

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[Unknown5]: thank you

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[Unknown6]: cherries go to the app i o s or android take that little snippet and send it to

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[Unknown6]: your friends family and fans because they need to hear this you guys can follow me

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[Unknown6]: you know where you can follow them you can find me an ig i am juliet han you can

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[Unknown6]: go to my website i am juliet han you can see find me in tick tock i am juliet han

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[Unknown6]: find me basically anywhere i am juliet han to learn more see what we're doing but

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[Unknown6]: again sally thank you so much for joining your next stop it's been a pleasure

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[Unknown6]: all ready

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[Unknown5]: ah amazing

My focus is entirely on helping you follow your passion, even when you feel like you've got stuck in crazy town. There is a way out, its me helping you. You don't have to ditch everything in your life that is making you feel overwhelmed and stuck, you just need some help to navigate it.

WHEN YOU FOLLOW YOUR PASSION YOU WILL NATURALLY ENRICH THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE

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Episode 150: Sally Bunnell | Digital Nomad, CEO & Founder of NaviSavi -The Real Travel Reel

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