YNS Live with Kathryn Camsey

Listen to a new episode of Your Next Stop recorded live on Fireside with host Juliet Hahn featuring author, and mom Kathryn Camsey.

 

“However sad your situation is, there's always something to be positive about, there's always gratitude that you can find. There is a life after TRAGEDY.”

 

Kathryn Camsey is a mother to 8-year-old Blissbelle and the creator of My Mind Full Of Happiness Guide.

 

In 2011, something really bad happened to Kathryn’s  20-year-old niece, Alice. Her whole family was left devastated. In particular, her 8-year-old niece suddenly found herself without her big sister, and Kathryn desperately wanted to help her smile again.

 

Kathryn introduced her to the spiritual and mindfulness tools she has always used in her life. She wanted to see if they would help her and if they could be taught in an age-appropriate way. They worked together with each modality and a daily routine, and with the tools, time, and consistency, she managed to regain her happiness and joy in life again.

 

Seeing her 8-year-old niece flourish by using all these teachings made Kathryn want to empower and give happiness to other children. She spent years researching, reading, taking courses, and learning every technique, spiritual, and mindfulness skill she could. All in an effort to create the most beautiful, detailed, and knowledge mindful children's life guide, ever. 

 

After years of research and working with a powerful team of wellness superheroes (a.k.a. experts in their respective fields), Kathryn created My Mind Full Of Happiness Guide.

 

Not only are there lessons in the book, but the creation of the book was a huge life lesson...  

 

No matter what happens, there is always something good waiting for you. 

 

Check out My Mind Full Of Happiness Guide at FairyClub.Love.

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:04] Juliet Hahn: Hi everyone. How are you? Welcome to YNS Live. I am so excited to have my guest Catherine Kimsey and she is the founder of fairy club. Love and what I so excited. Cause I've had Catherine on way back when we're like in the hundreds, hundreds, 50, 75 episodes, Catherine was my number 70. So welcome Catherine to YNS live.

[00:00:29] How are you?

[00:00:30] Kathryn Camsey: Excited to be here.

[00:00:33] Juliet Hahn: I'm so excited to have you back because I know there's been so much, uh, I mean, even. First, you know, we met in clubhouse and then we just like really hit it off. And you were one of my first guests when I started doing a series called, um, you know, love what you do and your story, uh, is tragic, but then amazing.

[00:00:52] This is going to be a really fun show. And again, there's some tragic parts to it that, you know, get ready. Cause it's, it's very heart wrenching and gut wrenching. But then what has come out of it is, is really incredible. And then I also want to shout out to my sponsor together.

[00:01:08] Women rise. If you guys were in the show last week, where, um, Barb and Wendy were talking about their story, it was really incredible together. Women rise in. Awesome. Awesome organization that helps with women equality. So head over to together, women rise.org, and you can sign up for their newsletter and see how you can get involved, but definitely head over there to do that.

[00:01:30] But, uh, again, Catherine, I am like so excited to hear where you are, but give us, you know, people can go back to episode seven. And they can go and listen to your story, but if you can just give us a little bit of backgrounds, you know, where and how you formed ferry club love. That would be amazing. 

[00:01:49] Kathryn Camsey: Yeah, sure.

[00:01:50] Um, I mean, I'll try and keep it brief. So interrupt me. 

[00:01:53] Juliet Hahn: Yeah, no, don't keep it brief because you know, it's your story. I don't want you to keep it brief, but, you know, yeah. 

[00:01:59] Kathryn Camsey: I really love to like focus on the positive, but obviously the positive. Something negative. Um, so yeah, boy back way. And I mean, I've always been into everything to do with crystals and spirituality and oils and meditation just always been a huge part of my life and love it.

[00:02:13] Always, even as a child, I was into all of that stuff and fairies and all that sort of thing. Um, and I had a pretty good life, brilliant childhood. Everything was fabulous. Um, you know, also all sorts of wonderful things. Um, and then in 2011, two weeks before my wedding, uh, I had a phone call from my sister and I was a TV presenter, TV host to say in the U S at the time.

[00:02:40] And I'm literally just about gone out and she calls me and told me that my niece had been murdered when she was 20. She was 20 at the time. And obviously. It's as if time stopped and I change and I had to re think how I was going to manage my life in dealing with something that was so tragic and devastating, but not only to me, because I have always been very positive.

[00:03:05] I'm really good at putting a smile on things and I'm fine, but. Suddenly, it was the first thing in my life where I couldn't say to my friends and everyone. Oh, it's but it's fine. Cause it, it wasn't right. And then everything we're very, very close. Alice was, you know, huge part of my life. I used to have a lot as that, you know, as a, as her auntie.

[00:03:21] Um, but I think apart from that, obviously we should have devastating. It was the way that she went. It was the fact that it affected everybody in my family. So suddenly all my support system, when I have 20 people that are in my close knit family, suddenly everybody was saying. So I really, and also then having to my husband at the time that we were all gonna go to Hawaii, I was about to get married.

[00:03:41] So then with all the grief, from having to have conversations with people, having to cancel the wedding and having to deal with this, my husband was in Hawaii. He had to, it was just horrific as anybody, anybody that ever has any loss, anyone we've all, you know, we've lost people and it's always sad. Um, but I think with a murderer, there's a different level that you have to suddenly accept with regards to.

[00:04:01] Suddenly, you know, it's this person you love is being spoken to like about, you know, as evidence and, you know, having to see my sister go through all of that and then having to go to the court case a year later and you know, it comes with so many other, other things. Um, and my sister, my Alice's mom has been absolutely amazing.

[00:04:19] She's very spiritual, very inspired. Um, we've got a lot of strength from her from that. Um, but really for me, I wasn't sure how I was ever going to sort of smile again, you know, how do you get past that? So that's when I started to use all these modalities and they started really sort of introducing them into my daily, putting myself into a really strict.

[00:04:38] So I could pull myself out of that grief. So using my crystals, using my oils, using meditation, yoga, healthy, eating, you know, it's no good going, having a glass of wine as tempting as that was, you know, completely again, understanding that suddenly I had to deal with this because you can't carry that grief.

[00:04:56] Two choices, be sad forever, or get up and deal because everybody in life has a story, a sad story, happy story. You know, I understand that people will talk to me and say, oh yeah, but it's really sad. What happened to you? And I'm like, hang on a second. Sad is sad. If that's your doctor, your fish dying, your Briony, whatever, whatever it's sad is a feeling for you.

[00:05:16] So I understand. And what I realize, especially having my other nieces around that were younger. And now certainly my daughter was, I already had those modalities that instantly I could turn to, because I knew about all of this stuff. So my passion became, we should teach children all of this. Now, before life happens, before they get their heartbroken, before they lose someone they love before they go through something top.

[00:05:42] Bot: Um, 

[00:05:43] Kathryn Camsey: so that they already have a toolbox of stuff that they can go to, you know, know that you got angels, that you can call and you can actually, oils will actually help change your mood. Knowing that having a green smoothie and grounding yourself with crystals and meditation is affirmations looking, however, sad your situation.

[00:05:59] There's always something to be positive about. There's always gratitude that you can find journaling your feelings out, burning that less. So many steps that you can have, and especially now, especially with the pandemic, especially with what children are going through now and having. Charles suicide as part of our conversation, children cussing themselves as young, you know, so young, this didn't happen when I was younger.

[00:06:25] It didn't, it wasn't, I mean, maybe it did, but very, it wasn't as around as much as it is now. And I think, you know, social media and like I said, the pandemic, you know, We as adults have to step in, we have to give these children tools. We have to empower them. We have to give them the tools to teach them how to make their lives better.

[00:06:44] And that's basically what my first. Is that 

[00:06:48] Juliet Hahn: right? And I love that. And you know, and I remember from episode 70, you know, when you told me that I, you know, took my breath away because I can't even imagine having to go through that. And one of the, there was two things that you said that really stuck out for me.

[00:07:02] Um, one was, well, I guess three, cause you said your mom just walked around and made tea and that your dad sat in a chair with a magazine upside down. And I remember being like, oh, like your dad, like who was the rock? Probably of the family to see that that magazine was like turned upside down. I just, you know, that must have like tore you apart.

[00:07:22] And then the other thing that you said that really stuck out to me is that you lost your voice and you were always the one that was like, it was okay. But you physically, literally didn't you literally lose your voice. 

[00:07:32] Kathryn Camsey: When I literally, I just couldn't physically eat. Um, I didn't, I just physically couldn't.

[00:07:38] It was so hard because. When something like that happens and you know, people that have been through Griffel know, it's like, everything's the first after that person has gone. I can't explain it. Like I had to, I couldn't bear wearing something or touching something that I had touched before. She was the fault when she was here.

[00:07:55] When she wasn't here, you, you, your life suddenly sort of splits you get up when she was and when she wasn't. So you do all these weird things like you go, and I wouldn't touch everything. I wouldn't. So they'll have to go and do that. And then I had to, you know, it was, it was just, I don't know, it's just a way I'd never really lost anyone before.

[00:08:12] Juliet Hahn: no, I'm going to say well to lose them the way you lost her. I mean, I mean murder, as you said, now she was evidence. And like, again, as, you know, a sane person, that's had a, you know, I've had, we've all, as you said, we all have our stories and satisfied and satisfied, but something so, um, violent and, and, and the way, you know, that just, I can't even, even kind of wrap my head around it.

[00:08:35] Kathryn Camsey: Yeah, it does. It was like you and you sort of can't even, even it's a policeman stood there and I drove back from London. My sister said, don't go on air. And I was like, of course I'm not, you know, I'm, I'm coming. And we all, all my, all my family migrated to our house and we all stayed there for, I can't remember how long it was a couple of weeks you'll slept on the floor.

[00:08:51] And, you know, we all sort of took these different roles. My brother was fantastic with dealing with the police and my sister. In my mum, you know, obviously it was a waves of feelings, then we're trying to be brave for my lip, that the little ones, and it was, you know, it was just, yeah, it was just, it's just so sad.

[00:09:11] It's another thing that we had to deal with with the press as well. Cause the British press, if anyone was sending links, they'll know what that's like. And it was a sensational story. Another gentleman. Young boy, he was 20. He was killed at the same time as her friend. And it was a ridiculous story. And I won't even go into that, but it was, you know, they've made TV shows out of it.

[00:09:31] I, you know, I've had to go and try and stop that, you know, because it's. Who, you know, who are these people making, making me things out, something so negative, which is when I always circle back to there is all you have to try and find the positive. And the way that I looked at that was, you know, it's so sad, but I can't believe I was so lucky that I had her.

[00:09:50] She was such a positive person. And I do believe you come when you come and you leave when you leave. I honestly really believe that she's an amazing artist. And in her room she'd left us, like all these messages saying things. And this is how I know that she was like, no angel. It's like, when you cry, I'll cry.

[00:10:06] But when you smile a smile and she'd written a poem when she was 13 about dying, when she was older, um, where things, she, Trent, what actually happened to her, she dreamt two days before she actually dreamt it. And she was telling she was crying in the kitchen, telling my sister about it. And then obviously tea.

[00:10:21] It's like, almost like your soul preparing for it. Right. So although desperately saying. Of course, and I would, if I could change it, I would, but I can't. So all I'm left with is trying to find some positivity out of it. And the one thing I wanted, the one thing I needed and I couldn't have is I wanted to speak to somebody that had been through the same experience.

[00:10:40] And for them to say to me, you will be all right. There is you can live your life after this. Like, there is a life after. And that's really, that's what I want to tell children when they're going through, you know, cause I've, you know, we've all had times when we've been bullied or something's happened and you sort of think I'll never get through this or your boyfriend or your girlfriend, whoever, you know, they leave you and it's, it's so devastating how, but you can get past everything and anything.

[00:11:05] And with everything that I did teach children, that that's what I'm teaching them. And I think. Absolutely imperative. Every spiritual book, every crystal book, every anything to do with it. I mean, I've probably bought most, but I love, I love better. Let's all hold hands and just make it big. You know, I'm not saying everyone should definitely come to me or I'm some sort of superhero, that's got all the answers I'm saying let's teach, let's all get together and let's make this happen.

[00:11:32] Um, cause it's just, it's so, so important. And that's really why I wrote it because when. I looked for my daughter, how am I going to teach all these things in a way that she understands everything that I wanted to teach her there wasn't anything around. So I thought, well, right, then I'm going to make it.

[00:11:48] Juliet Hahn: Yeah. And so that's, and, but I love that. Like, and I love because you are a positive person, right? So you were born a positive person, you said, and you had things that you did. Um, so, you know, kind of support your positivity. And I really believe, you know, and, and people that listen to this, we all have a path.

[00:12:03] Right. And whether you believe in God or the universe, or. That, that, you know, you, you will find that path at certain points, whether it's a tragedy or it's, you know, you keep getting signs or it's like something that you want to do. And it's, it's some intuition and what I found, just so beautiful, you know, when I heard your story again, way back when it was, you know, number 70, um, which I feel like a couple, I mean, I started this in 2019, so it was definitely over, you know, over a year, a year and a half, whatever.

[00:12:32] Is that you from that we're like, I want to show Alice that I'm not going to let her. What happened to her? Take me down. Cause that's not the person she was, she would never want this. She would be dying that we were also sad. So I'm going to do something that's positive and then I'm going to take it and help others.

[00:12:52] And so take us through, I mean, first, how many books do you have and then take us through like how that kind of like evolved. Cause I want people to hear it so they can think in their own minds. Okay. Well, this has happened to me and I've always wanted to help, but where do I start? So if you can take a down a little bit down there.

[00:13:07] Kathryn Camsey: Sure. I mean, really it started as a cathartic project for me. I've always journaled ever since I was younger, which a hilarious read by the way. Um, so yeah, so just why sing was always, I'm a sort of always, it's funny. My husband, when I met him, I was just the TV. I always wants to be famous and that was always my goal.

[00:13:26] And then when I moved to Nashville and no one could understand me, cause my accent, I was, I need to rethink this one. Um, But I always sort of like, I love kids and I've always been obsessed with fairies. And one day I just thought, how did we get all this out of me? Like I've got to write. And then I started just, I just, literally one day wrote a list of everything I love.

[00:13:46] I like, what, who am I? What's my passion. What do I really want? How can I connect with children? But. In a way that doesn't, it's not a job. It's something that I just love because it never started out as I'm going to write a book and sent it, it started out as sort of almost like journal notes and then they sort of got bigger and then I started to dream up fairies and I would doodle them.

[00:14:05] And then, um, I think when you're in the, on the right path, people get put in front of. Like one of my good friends, Alison she's amazing. She writes books and she just sort of, she was like, yeah, you can tell you. Right. But because I'm actually chronically dyslexics, I was like, well, if it's ever going to right.

[00:14:19] Juliet Hahn: And everyone knows that that's about me. And that's one of the things that we also got really, we were like, oh, this is amazing because. I have that. And that's, you know, a huge part of my story. And even when we first met, that was part of my story. But now as I have evolved in this last year and a half in my storytelling, like I realized how much that actually was a part of my life and is a part of my life.

[00:14:40] So go ahead. But right. So like when someone says, write a book and you're dyslexic, you're like, yeah, you know what, in the things. 

[00:14:47] Kathryn Camsey: Um, but yeah, that, that they just didn't get in my way, because although I was struggling with, I'd sort of like worked through that, the dyslexia and just so the words would just flow and, you know, I don't know about how I would say that.

[00:15:00] It just, it just wrote itself. It's really weird. It's just, you know, Alison got put in my path and then she had an illustration she'd work with. And she was just about to take a break and she was like, would actually be great if you could like pick her up. And I met this lady and she's like, oh, I'm not sure I can do that.

[00:15:15] We worked. And she's brilliant. My illustrator is absolutely fantastic. Not just as brilliant illustrator, but she's become a really dear friend of mine. Um, like she's unbelievable being so generous with her time and help them on the journey. Cause I'm obviously mad as box. As well, cause I'm cool. Great. If, but she sort of like ridden the wave with me.

[00:15:34] Um, yeah, so I started to put it together and then I realized, you know, what, every modality I love and I've done my whole life well, so long as I can remember to do it, crystals and oils and everything. And then I thought that every modality is a career is somebody's whole life, you know, crystals, you know, somebody like a duty hall or, you know, a company like doTERRA or young living or something like that.

[00:15:54] So yeah. Um, people that study angels. So I was like, if I'm going to write this, I don't just want to write for me. I want to join up with people and really expand on that. So I literally went and bought every book. Did every study did every course on each modality. That was the first thing I did. And it was just great.

[00:16:11] I loved every, it wasn't a chore. It was like, oh, I could, you know, I just couldn't get enough of it. And then I connected with somebody from each modality, but I went, I found a crystal expert and I really dug deep into how do I responsibly give this information to children in a way that is really, really.

[00:16:28] Clever and informative, but also really fun. So it's sort of like, it's sort of fun as well, but really it's actually a lot of information. So I did that and I did that with everything crystals, you know, I didn't just go to an essential person. I went to an art room therapist because, you know, I know stuff, but I know a lot, but I you're always learning aren't you.

[00:16:47] So I went and they're all credited in my book and we work together and, you know, I just, everything that I wrote, I was like, is this good? Is this? And we would tweak it and we would work. So, you know, I felt really responsible. So it took me a long time to do. But once I did one, they were like, it's, I'm not good at many things, but writing books I'm really good at 

[00:17:06] Juliet Hahn: right.

[00:17:06] And, and you, and you are good at many things, but right. I mean, it is no. And, and, and I think when, you know, again, a year and a half ago, you had, I mean, I feel like over 30 books, 

[00:17:18] Kathryn Camsey: Well, but there's gosh, there's well, there's not only birds because yes, I've got like, I've got C w what I've got is I've got my main, that was just my mind full of happiness, which has got everything in.

[00:17:27] And then what I did, I branched out from that and I've got my crystal ferries and my oil theories, and they tell a little baby each got like a little spiritual mindfulness, but so like Roxy, the rose quartz and orangy the essential oil ferry. And then they meet sometimes and their sort of little stories.

[00:17:42] Um, you know, so it's all thread all the way through, you know, like, And race course, very she's pink and she's very calm. And then natures are the proxies of crystals and the colors of that X. So it's, it's done, it's done in a way so that children will just get it without knowing that they getting it. Um, and then I've written a, um, a sleeping story to help children be calm and tell them about the goals and the crystals at work with that.

[00:18:05] And then I've also got a work book that goes with the book. It's 120 pages. So you worked together and it's great because what happens is, is parents that get it, they can work with their kids through it. So, um, and that's something that I'm, I'm just about to start mentoring so we can work together. So I can help parents with children that are highly anxious or worry.

[00:18:24] Just once I give them kids these tools, cause they armed them with the tools and B it carves out really, really a magical time that they can spend together and work through the Burke and the wa Burke. And then we can see ways of overcoming staff, you know, so. Yeah, it's just really all about empowering children, giving them the power about giving them these tools.

[00:18:46] And my, my hope would be that they would come away. And even if they just had a love of one thing, like maybe crystals is their thing, or maybe they find meditation, that's like, you know, that's going to be, that's going to be their thing. Or they, they really understand about how, you know, food controls their body and the difference that it'll make, if you would just drink some more.

[00:19:05] Fizzy for water. Just one change. That would be good. That would be good enough for me. Um, so yeah, so that's, that's the plan, but really this is all just a calling card for my big band. 

[00:19:17] Juliet Hahn: Yeah. So tell us, because that's what I know when we first, it was a, it was a dream like, you know, it was one of those things and everyone that listens to my.

[00:19:25] She's my live shows know that, um, daydreaming is a huge, you know, I, I'm a huge advocate for, and I always say to people, you need to find that time to daydream and daydream is not a negative thing. And some people call it meditation. I call it daydreaming and I don't meditate. Like I don't sit on a, on a mat because when I sit on the mat, I think about the laundry and the dishwasher, if I'm walking my dogs, when I create in my mind.

[00:19:46] So I always say to everyone, you need to find that space. You need to find that space. It doesn't have to be a traditional thing. You know what. It's just where you find where you can create in your mind. So I know when we initially had spoken, you're like, well, this is my, this is my next big dream. And so tell, and I know you're, you're far into, I know you can't tell too much about it, but I'm just like again and everyone, I know that is, you know, whether you're on LinkedIn, whether on Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, or hear live in FireSIGHT or listening to the replay, I mean, they can hear your.

[00:20:18] And they can hear, um, just what a wonderful, amazing human you are. And again, that you want to help. And it came out of tragedy and, um, you know, the tragedy as, as crazy and awful as it was it actually, you know, that it's Alice speaking to you as you're doing these things and you know that you're, you know, that she's there with you going yes.

[00:20:39] ANSI. I'm so proud of you. 

[00:20:41] Kathryn Camsey: Yes. I feel like she's very. You know, it really it's sort of feels like that. And again, you know, having those people sort of put in my path made it just made the process just so much better. And what I didn't mention, because I think, and I will just quickly briefly mention this because it's relevant to the story and relevant to people that are going through things.

[00:21:01] But, um, Two to two and a half years, three years after this happened, my best friend died of cancer. And are the only reason I'm mentioning that? Polly is for a couple of reasons. One, because I want to honor her, but also she gave me all my knowledge about smoothies and healthy eating. And, and I would not have had that without her, but also because Alyssa died and I'd gone through that grief when I had to deal with her because I had those modalities and I'd experienced that and I'd use those processes and habits.

[00:21:28] I was. Not breeze past it. Of course it was a process, but so much easier and so much quicker than it was with Alice because I'd prepared myself. And that's really what I'm trying to say to encourage. That you give yourself these tools and these habits you will, every time will be easier and easier, and that's not to diminish the grief for how you feel, but it's to know that there is another side, a promise you, I promise you wherever that's your in, because I felt sometimes you feel like you're in a black hole.

[00:21:57] That's how grief felt to me. So, yeah, I just wanted to mention that because 

[00:22:01] Juliet Hahn: that, and I love that. And I actually was going to get back to that because when we had our show, um, my best friend Susie had died of, um, you know, friends and I, you know, I actually, it's funny I have my podcast, but I really haven't.

[00:22:15] I know Susie's with me at all times and she's probably like, yeah, you don't talk about it enough. She's probably like sitting there yelling at me right now. Um, but, and I know she'd be so proud of where I am, but that was. Her death. She died a frontal lobe dementia at, uh, 40, I mean 42. I mean, it just is like insane.

[00:22:31] Like when people are like, wait, what did she say? Frontal lobe dementia. Yeah. My friend had dementia. I completely watched her for years. Just shrink into this person that couldn't speak anymore. Couldn't walk. And I would literally go every Friday and I would. Sit and wrestle with her or like, you know, we'd play ball or something and I'd bring the kids whenever they could.

[00:22:50] And it was all of a sudden seeing this incredible woman that was an artist who was the light, who had this laugh that you would like literally stop in your tracks, um, to like, and she always remembered me. So frontal lobe dementia, they still remember. But they don't know, like they just literally become a child and then almost like I'm an autistic child.

[00:23:08] And then almost like, even further into that. Uh, so it was insane. So I know when we talked, I think we, when I literally said in the episode, like, we're, we laughed, we cried, which we really did because we both did, because it was something that I learned from Suzy. Um, you know, I did watch her. You know, kind of die in front of me for years.

[00:23:29] And I remember when she did go, you know, when she left this earth because you know, I'm mourned when she left. When she wasn't the person she was for years, you know, I think it was like three years that, you know, I would go and I'd be like, I can't, I cannot believe that this is my friends is like, you know, I couldn't have a conversation with her.

[00:23:47] You didn't, you didn't talk. It was not a conversation anymore. She would like repeat you. And then she lost her voice. And then she lost a lot of bodily functions. And so it was, um, just watching that happen and seeing what, you know, she had two young sons, you know, her there, she and her ex husband actually had gotten divorced before.

[00:24:03] Cause he didn't know that this was happening with frontal lobe dementia. The first thing that goes is really your, um, kind of your sympathy. So he would come home from work and she would have this wonderful meal in front of him. He'd be like, oh, where's mine. And she'd be like, oh, I didn't make it for you.

[00:24:19] And the kids would be eating like a bowl of cereal in front of the floor, like on, in front of the TV, which they never did. And he was like, what is going on? So he thought that she just stopped loving him. They went to therapy and she was like, oh, you want to get divorced? Well, no, but do you, and she's like, yeah, sure.

[00:24:35] Because they, law is like, she lost that part and you didn't know that that's what was happening. And so it was just insane seeing the little pieces as after she passed. But, so I remember you saying that, you know, with Alice and then with Polly who Alice, you know, when Polly was there for you, she was one of your support systems and then to lose her.

[00:24:53] You know, just as again, like a kick in the, you know, a kick in the stomach, like, oh my gosh, okay, God, what are you, what are you telling me? What do I need? Um, but so again, I love that you brought that up, so I totally appreciate you brought that up because that is where, like, she taught you all these different things.

[00:25:09] And again, it was your path and that's what, like, as much as it's, it's awful and it's, it's terrible that all those experiences that you went through just are here because you're going to help a mold. Tude of people. Like, it's not just like where you're going to help with like your little, you know, your little pod there.

[00:25:26] You're going to be helping people in all generations, in all countries, because of these two experiences that you have. 

[00:25:33] Kathryn Camsey: Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, that's a huge Polly was you're right. She's complete support network teammates. She, we were like sisters really? So it was really, and she was so positive. Like she was up, I'm definitely not going to die.

[00:25:44] So, and I really believe I believed it. I really, I was, it sounds ridiculous because again, similar to you or, you know, I watched her. Dying essentially in front of me, but I just never, ever thought I was going to get that call because I just, you know, cause we all about positivity and you know, really, but yeah, it was actually when, when Alice died, she'd help Alice Hill from her eczema completely by giving her this protocol as GC.

[00:26:09] And I found a note from Alice for blessed and it was at things to do number one, ring poly, and thank her for making my skin better. And she never got round to doing it. So. But it sort of all interlinked and that's what I'm in is it's sad as it is. It feels very purpose driven. It feels as if everything that was meant to happen has happened for that reason.

[00:26:30] And even when I moved to Nashville, you know, when I moved to America, I was so having had this perfect life of like never anything tragic to them. Alison probably, and moving to moving countries and finding it, moving to the Bible belt in Nashville, it was like so different, culturally different and not wrong, you know?

[00:26:50] And I've met some lovely people, but I was so desperately lonely there because. Just not just finding difficult difficulty in connecting with people because so different, you know? So I really went through all these other things as well, almost, you know, like this loneliness and not fitting in. And suddenly I felt like Superman, but with, uh, is it kryptonite?

[00:27:09] Yeah, I felt like, cause my one, my superhero power was making friends with people and having people like me and suddenly people didn't and I was like, 

[00:27:17] Juliet Hahn: Well, wait, what's happening. Right. Which is so weird though. Like that makes me like don't, you know, I mean, I think that you were such a light, but again, it's because it's different from what they experienced.

[00:27:27] Kathryn Camsey: No. So, you know, I was very loud. I'm from London. I'm, you know, my husband's a lot younger than me, you know, he was in a rock band and like, who's this girl and I'm super confident over, you know, I don't wanna say I'm noxious, but just it's different when you grow up from London to going to places where everything, you know, people marry a lot younger, so it was just different.

[00:27:49] So, and again, the reason I say that is because I've exp you cannot have empathy. I don't think for loneliness, for heartbreak, for grief, for all of those experiences, for being ostracized, being victimized, all of those things, because his family didn't like me. That it's another story, but unless you've experienced.

[00:28:07] And I really feel like I have had 10 years of like being through this rollercoaster, but I'm absolutely out the other side now. And that's why I'm ready to like set the world on fire. Yeah. Uh, fire. 

[00:28:19] Juliet Hahn: Right? Unfair. No, I love that. You said that, but here's the other thing that I want to touch on that you said, and this comes up a lot in the podcast now, as, as my podcast is evolved, is that when you were writing.

[00:28:29] It almost was like you were in a flow, like it wasn't difficult. It just was there. And I had a very similar experience and, you know, Gina and Stephanie in the audience are gonna applaud to this. But when I was at the live shows at, you know, for the NFL, uh, at the super bowl with the, with the women, I it before I was thinking, okay, well, I need to be a little bit prepared.

[00:28:48] Like when I do an interview, I, I don't like to do too much research. Cause it's all about the conversation. It's all about me being curious and asking curious questions, but I was like, okay, these people are going to be coming up. There's going to be famous people. I really should know their names. Like, so if I can have like a little bit of a laundry list of who's going to be at the networking event and like, you know, who's going to be at the fashion show, just like an idea.

[00:29:06] Cause people have RSVP. I, um, you know, my, my partner, Cynthia was like, you know, I can't get that to you. You'll be fine. Okay, I'm just going to go with it. And I remember sitting down and, you know, and thinking I hired an agency cause I was like, I just hope everything. Like, you know, it's broadcast and I hope we have the wifi and all of those things.

[00:29:23] And I literally sat down in the chair. And I did not have a nerve at all. It was the most amazing thing, you know, I was jet lagged. I D I just think I just had one shake, you know, the whole, the whole day. Um, thank you. And again, not that everyone needs to know this, but I had my period, there were so many things that could have went wrong, that nothing did.

[00:29:45] And I was so in the flow and I just, afterwards. Okay. I see you. God, I'm in the spot that I'm supposed to be in. I've been listening to you. People have been put in my path because this is what you have meant for me and all my other experiences. Like, so when I decided to stay, you know, when I was in advertising and then had children and I stayed home with the children and you know, then I did some of the, you know, I, I taught, I was an instructor for health and fitness.

[00:30:10] Those were not the wrong path. Those were just a path that we're building on my story. And now I'm in the spot where. You want me to, and I can't wait to see where this goes, because this is fun. Right? So as you were writing and you were feeling that you were like, okay, this is great. So it tells us now, like what you have in the works.

[00:30:29] And, um, you know, I know again, I know you can't tell us too much, but like what you have in the works and what you've been working on in your, you know, this. 

[00:30:35] Kathryn Camsey: Well, my goal is, like I said, the book was always really like my calling card, you know, I don't even care. So eventually I'd like to be in a position where I can just give these books away.

[00:30:44] Like the first books, I feel like every night, I think about foster kids and children's homes, you know, people that really need it because at the very beginning of the biggest says, this book found you because it wants to be with you. And that's, so that's why I want it. You know, I love it when people borrow often people, you know, they'll buy it and they'll buy a gift for somebody.

[00:31:00] And I love that. And I've gifted. A lot of them. No, I remember. Yeah. Just because, not just because I really feel like I want kids to have it. I think it's important and I'd love it in schools as well. I think that's a, again, that's going to be, there's work to do with that, but I think that, I think it would be.

[00:31:19] Um, to have that, but this is my goal with it. So I've got my book, I've got all my other books, which is like a subscription, which is going to have stickers and affirmation cards and bookmarks and all sorts of things like that. I'm just about to open, um, emerged also that people can attach whatever ferry they like to anything that they want.

[00:31:35] Maybe what Zara Faena, who's the sleeping fairies or blanket or the flower of life, which is a really powerful and healing and symbol that you could have. So a little prayer, Rodney Shetty and Jay Shetty's wife. Who's in my book, she talks a lot about how you can have like little secret little prayer on your child's lunch box.

[00:31:52] So there's loads of stuff with that. So that's one thing. Um, but the books I want to lead to this TV show because that's really my background. I started my life in Palm studios million years ago. Um, in Buckinghamshire. And, um, in a kid's animation. So when I, again, I didn't know you were going there, but it just, again, just put it together and I've got this TV show that I absolutely love, and I've got some really big names, that huge, huge, big names that are very, very interested in it and we're pushing it.

[00:32:22] And so we're starting to have meetings now about it and talking to my, I don't want to talk about a network, so who it is because I had an awesome. But yes, I'm getting a lot of yeses, a lot of interest. Um, and this will be a really, really powerful show because again, it's giving those subtle messages.

[00:32:40] It's really positive. It's got all of the feeling of, you know, the poor patrol with, uh, the, the team building and my little. And the little Carebears and pixie hallow with the fairies, but it also delivers a really powerful message. It teaches children about the Meditech, everything that you talk about, meditation, yoga, healthy eating, but it does it in a really cute way.

[00:33:01] And two things happen in every show. First of all, you've got, everybody wears a flower of life. You'll give them one by the flower of life ferry. You don't know what it's going to be. It can be a necklace. So once somebody's got tattoo, somebody there's because there's fairies for everybody. And then all of it, whatever happens all the fairies of life, sort of join up.

[00:33:17] And they send out like this beam of energy and whatever ferries needed comes in. So we meet there's probably, I think I've got about 60 fairies now. So they come in and also at the end of every show, you've got Roxy, who's our main character she'll come in and you'll sort of pull out of the TV screen and she comes onto the show and she'll give the child an affirmation.

[00:33:37] So this is what you know, social access. I thank you so much. I'll love you. Thank you for watching today. We learned that this isn't, this is so important. Go and go and give somebody go and tell someone you love or go and do this, or so Lee's really positive, which I think is really, really important. So that's.

[00:33:55] Yeah. So that's the TV show. So I'm really excited about that because that's my absolute passion and I just, and that could be something that can be sort of worldwide and not only for the messages, not only for the habits, not only for the teacher, but also it's completely diverse. Um, I've consulted. With, um, a diversity lawyer from the LSC, which is the school of economics.

[00:34:17] It's like our Harvard in that. And she's super she's, she's brilliant. She, I mean, obviously she's going to be a professor, so she, so I've, cause again, you know, I understand about diversity I've I, I want to be sensitive to that, but I want to have it on a level that really. Really, it really gets to everybody so that every single child, whatever feeling they're going through, they're going to see a fair, it'd be like, huh?

[00:34:40] There's somebody like me in there, whatever it is, whatever that is. So that's something as well. And I just want that flowing through, not, it doesn't even need to be talked about much or maybe we will, but it's just going to be floating through. So again, something that I've thought about, um, and then from the show, my next project, or where I see this going is, I don't know.

[00:35:00] Um, well, a pack of peg is huge. Have peak Wells is here actually I'm in England about 20 minutes from where I am, but it's, I want to create like a little place in, um, something like they've got it here in Paulson's park. So it's like a little place that you can go with your kids and you can ride all the rise of hacker peak roads.

[00:35:18] You know, you can go to the school house, you can go and ride in the windy pale or whatever is. So what I'm going to do is have. And create a place where children will go and you'll go to the total team rooms and you'll learn how to make the ferries, call it a soothing smoothie, just a little calmer. So you'll make little soothing together and let you'll explain what's needed in that.

[00:35:41] You'll go over to. The ferry town hall, and there's somebody teaching about meditation or, uh, you'll go over to the waterfall, um, where you can rinse your crystals and let you know, like when you dig for gold, if you go to one of those, why did I do that recently? Is it the only way to Carmen? But, um, yeah, so you can go and dig for crystals and then every crystal you get out, you can like learn the properties of it.

[00:36:03] So that's where I'm going with this and you will, 

[00:36:06] Juliet Hahn: and that's the thing you totally well, so let's tell everyone where they can find. 

[00:36:10] Kathryn Camsey: Okay. So everywhere is fairy. My website is very pop.love, and that's where you can find me. And that's where everything is really. But all of my Facebook, my Instagram go to everything is just very full of love.

[00:36:24] Juliet Hahn: Yeah. So you guys can see that actually scrolling and again, it will be in the, you know, in the show notes, but, um, you know, I mean, Katherine, I just, I love. That you are back. I mean, we we've always, you know, through Instagram or whatever, we've always stayed in touch because, you know, I feel like we have so many synergies, but also so many beliefs, but also our energies.

[00:36:43] Like we, we would, we would be, if we lived in the same town, we'd be, you know, palling around. Um, but I just, I love what you're doing, but I, and I just love the message that you're out there, but it's also, you know, showing people. That's um, you know, you can dream big and you can make things happen. And I think that's so important.

[00:37:01] And I know when you said, you know, you had a great life until, you know, a couple of tragedies happen, but again, you're dyslexic. So life, you know, you had your struggles, right. But you also. 

[00:37:12] Kathryn Camsey: I was, I was definitely a chubby kid, always the one pig lost at sport. Definitely. I think, you know, I did go through a lot of things as a child, but I think I just, again, it was always because it was just me, that was going through it.

[00:37:23] I was like, we're good. Right? That'd be the Trump you want because all my brothers and sisters were super slim. And in fact, my mum just said to me the other day, which I was like, great psychology. She's like, do you remember when you thought you were really fat and stupid? And that was fine. I was like my brother, we were just like dying, laughing.

[00:37:43] Juliet Hahn: It's so it's so true. But you know, it goes back to like, when I, when people ask me, like, what will just make you be unstoppable? Like you don't stop. And I'm like, well, it's because I think probably how many times I failed as a student, but I just kept getting back up, you know, like I just kept getting back up.

[00:38:00] Cause it was like, okay, well that was hard. Oh, I sucked at that. But I had a lot of talent. I did have a lot of strengths. 

[00:38:06] And I love that, you know, it's so close to your heart, but it's also, you know, you've created this in your mind. I can't wait. You guys go over to ferry club, love Instagram, you know, websites, but also if you are listening to this wherever you are, and you're like, oh, that doesn't really portraying pertain to me.

[00:38:22] It does in some way, if you actually just stopped and think of everyone in your life, whether it's a neighbor, an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, someone needs to hear this show, someone needs to hear this message. Someone needs. Uh, book the ferry club love book because they're going through something that they maybe don't need to handle.

[00:38:40] So I want you guys to go out and share this to as many people as you can. I also want to thank Tim gather women rise, who is sponsoring this, this episode, and that is a woman in quality. They're doing so many crazy, amazing things where they're changing. I mean, the projects that they're having, they're going to be on more, but go over to together.

[00:38:59] Women rise.org. And you guys can learn a little bit more about that as well, but I just want to say thank you so much, Katherine, and, um, good luck with everything. I can't wait to just be like, I had her on, you know, a year and a half ago. I knew overs. I knew reverse. 

[00:39:13] Kathryn Camsey: Oh, thank you. It's so nice to chat with you.

[00:39:16] And also if there's any more. You know, if you know of a charity or there's somebody that needs a book, please contact me. It's hello ferry had a [email protected], and I'm happy to donate anything. Cause I do. I really, I'm not just, it's not just lip service. I really mean, you know, I really want kids to have it that needed and I'm happy and love to do that.

[00:39:34] And also big on collaboration because I really believe we all just held each other's hand. Right? If we all got rid of all this rubbish that, you know, let's, uh, competition or this or that. I don't believe I've had a lot of people help me for no reason. Every single cell I've got lots of leprosies in my book and everyone did it for free people.

[00:39:51] Like Roddy, Shetty prince there. I've got John Edwards, I've got some really big names and they were yet, they were all in no question vision from mind valley. I mean, amazing people. So. If I can give to somebody, if someone wants my help, right. In a Berkeley something, please, because that's what we're here for.

[00:40:08] Isn't it. And I believe we're all in each other's soul set. So soul circle. And if we all just do that, I still stand on each other's shoulders. That's great. We can't take it with us 

[00:40:18] Juliet Hahn: and it's, but it's so true. It's so true. And that's what you know, and that's another reason why we get along so well, because we embody, you know, I mean, I remember after our last episode, I was like, oh, you need to talk to this person.

[00:40:27] And you're like, oh, you need to talk to this person. And we exchanged all these different people and. Beautiful about it. So yes. Thank you for bringing that up again. If you guys know people and also know people that, you know, I mean, Catherine is, is far with the, with the, uh, the TV show, but again, you never know who, you know, in your world that might be like, oh, wait a second.

[00:40:46] They can get you here. Or they know this person. So think about it, reach out, get in touch with, you know, Katherine and just, you know, again guys, thank you for joining YNS live with my guest, Catherine Kanzi so thank you so much, you know, Catherine, again, I just. 

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[00:41:02] Thank you guys again. Don't forget to share this. We will see you next week with another live show and a so good to see you. Bye everyone.