S2E15: Lost in Translation: Bridging Communication Gaps Between Learning Styles

If you're feeling frustrated and misunderstood in your learning journey, constantly questioning why things aren't working out the way you hoped, then you are not alone!

In this episode, you will be able to:

• Discover effective dyslexia awareness and support campaigns that make a real difference in the community.
• Uncover strategies for overcoming the trauma associated with dyslexia and thriving in spite of it.
• Explore the different learning styles and how they intersect with dyslexia, unlocking new ways to approach education.
• Understand the profound impact of dyslexia on self-esteem and find ways to build a positive self-image.
• Learn innovative fundraising strategies to support dyslexia foundations and make a meaningful impact.

Transcript:

00:00:05
Welcome back to word blindness. Dyslexia exposed. Okay, today is a Monday. We always record a Monday. I'm sitting here with Brent.

00:00:15
We're half an hour late for our recording because we were discussing what we wanted to talk about, and then we were talking about learning styles. There's all of these different things that we're going to be sharing with you guys. We're going to be doing more research. But today we wanted to talk about the campaign that we're doing in July. We touched on it in the other episodes.

00:00:36
So whenever this goes out, I don't know where we're going to be, but why don't you share where we are? And today is July 15. So we're recording on a July 15, which is a Monday. 15 days into the. Yeah, perfect.

00:00:49
15 days into July. And, you know, obviously coming around the campaign it started with July 17 is seven years for the foundation. Juliett is so smart. She said July is, you know, the 7th month. Now.

00:01:06
I'm so over right now. Seven years. So there was a lot of upside down hockey sticks. So, you know, obviously put the campaign together. I could put it together in a day.

00:01:16
We did. Yeah, I think it was two days because we were like, oh, my gosh, July is coming up. Let's get this done. This makes sense. Yeah, over the weekend.

00:01:25
Over that weekend. Because it's. July 1 was a Monday, so it was. Yeah, we're doing over. Over that weekend.

00:01:31
Because they're getting ready for God's day. Canada. Yeah. And you know, seven something campaign, it's been amazing. You know, we're at.

00:01:41
Let me pull it up. 6248 and 50. $0.62 here. Know, 15 days into the campaign, which is absolutely phenomenal. Which is amazing.

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You know, the one thing that obviously everybody, you know, any charity, they're always going to say, you know, money, right? Nobody yet. Everybody. Everybody has. You can't run a business money.

00:02:07
You can't run a charity without money.

00:02:11
But there's nothing else. You hear me talk about this all the time. The embarrassment that goes along with this. You know, I probably sent this out to, well, let's just say between 30 and 40 people. And probably a net worth of $100 million in that.

00:02:34
And I think I had five or six out of that donate when yo, it's just cuz that in embarrassment, some of them know a good portion of our dyslexic that won't donate and they're like, what do you won't donate? They should be donated to their cause. And, well, that doesn't make sense. And that's rude.

00:03:01
For all the non dyslexics. It doesn't make sense.

00:03:07
A lot of shit I say, you say doesn't make sense, right? But it's what I'm trying to do. What we're trying to do. And the reason we do this tape every Monday is right now. We're on a gravel road.

00:03:23
We're trying to try to pave the road so everybody can drive on a smooth road, beautiful, brand new paved highway. And what I mean by that is that some, every dyslexic, no matter if they're in Hollywood, no matter if they're a CEO, Fortune 500 company, or they're just us, can talk openly about their dyslexia, what goes along with it. The trauma, the embarrassment, the no self esteem hating who you are, what you are, you know? And I talk. I talk about that, you know, suicide.

00:04:04
I don't. Times I sat up the train, my addiction. No homeless. Selling my Stanley cup ring. These are all entwined in my dyslexia.

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And one of the richest people in the world shows you a clip that completely sidetracked the trauma that he's had and wouldn't talk about it. You know, if he can't talk about it, he's one of the richest people in the world, then who is? So when I say every dollar counts, literally every dollar counts, how many calls? And, Juliet, you can talk here in a second. Is how many calls they get for kids who want to commit suicide.

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I've had twelve year olds, right? So, like, every dollar goes more than. More than people ever understand. So it's a great start. It's been awesome.

00:05:06
It's been fun to see. It's been fun to watch it and watch it take up and have so many people participate. And also, I'll give a little context. So when we were coming up with all of a sudden. So I do a lot of stuff for the boxer rescue.

00:05:22
So basically, I was thinking when you were talking about. And we were like, seven, seven sevens. Okay, when do I stop to donate? Like, if I'm seeing something on social media, when do I say, like, oh, wait, let me just go click and go to, like, venmo or click on it and do it, or run to my purse and get my credit card, because there's times where I'm out that I'm like, oh, I would love to donate to that, but I don't have my credit card. And then I forget about it.

00:05:46
It. Right? So I said to you, it's when something is very specific. And what we're doing in the overall, you know, what the goal of and the mission of the, the foundation, sometimes it's hard for people to wrap their heads around right when we're talking about, you know, we're going to change it. And it's like, donate.

00:06:03
It's like, okay, well, they, they can't tangibly grab on something. So that's kind of like where my brain went when I said to you, let's just try this. Because there's like, a lot of times with this specific box of rescue, there's, there, they'll have an intake, they'll have a dog that needs x, Y and Z, and it's like, help to that cause. And that's literally every time it's a specific dog, whenever they do big fundraising things, it doesn't stop me as much. So whenever it's like a specific dog, and I know exactly what's happening with that, I literally, Apple pay or run, before I had Apple pay, ran to my purse and I would do that.

00:06:36
So I said to you, I'm going to start asking around, asking people. So I did on Instagram yesterday. So that would have been the 14th I did. And I asked, I said, what do people do? And I've had multiple people now comment and it said, basically I've donated when the cause hits close to home, where I, family or friends have been affected in some way.

00:06:58
And that makes sense right now. But, and there's a but there. Because with, and if you think about this, this makes a lot of sense. If there's something that hits home but you haven't dealt with it and you have embarrassment or you have not great feelings about it, you're not donating to it because it's like, I don't want to acknowledge that. Even though it's something where, and I think that probably goes to other things, but I don't know.

00:07:25
You know, like, I would, this is where I would love to, like, this is where the psychologist comes in. Right? Like, this is where I'm right here. How can I help you? But.

00:07:33
Right. It's, it's exactly like that. Where. Yes, 100%, I agree with people coming in and talking about that. But when it's something that is still raw, that hasn't been dealt with, when you have severe trauma around it, it's hitting you in a different way and you're pushing it away, you're like, oh, I don't want anything to do with that.

00:07:56
And you don't even really realize that you're doing it. A lot of people don't even realize they're doing it. It's just like, I need to kind of separate myself from that. Right. And a lot of times, they're not getting the message.

00:08:07
You know, they're the people that really need to hear that. It's hitting close to home. No, 100%. You know, it's. It's one of those bad.

00:08:15
It's almost like a bad habit you don't even realize you're doing. Yeah. Yo, for example, you'll might. There's so much my childhood that is black. That's trauma.

00:08:25
That's your brain protecting myself. So kind of the same thing is I've done my, you know, use myself an example I've done so many times, you know, for so long, I don't even realize I do it. So they're not, you know, they're not purposely all that. He should be doing it. He's not purposely not doing it, like, ah, you know, fuck them.

00:08:45
We're not gonna do that just because it's just like, not that at all. Right. Not. Not like, nothing to that effect. Yo.

00:08:53
It's taking a left turn instead of going a right turn. So he's not purposely trying to be an asshole or whatever with it. Absolutely not. That's a defense mechanism that's ingrained in him now or her, because that's what we've done our whole lives because, you know, we're born this way. So it's.

00:09:15
That's. That's. That's the hardest part about this. You know, trying to do something that's never been done in the world. And there's so many people, you know, like drug and alcohol, everybody.

00:09:31
Some people I have to work with, the family's like, ah, they're picking the. Picking the bottle, you know, or the drug over the family. It's not that. It's that trauma. It's that pain.

00:09:42
It might be so severe that, you know, they can't go there. Mm hmm. And, you know, it's interesting. I just had a. I was just talking to someone on, regarding trauma, and they're a psychotherapist, and it was just, actually, I recorded it for your next stop.

00:10:03
And what she said was really interesting. And we've talked about this a number of times, but sometimes people, when they think of trauma, they're like, they go to the darkest spot, and they're like, I don't have trauma. I had a pretty good life. And da da da. And one of the things that she said is, which is really interesting, and I was like, I love how she put this.

00:10:23
It was trauma. We all have it, which obviously we all have it, but it can be as small as your mom gave your brother the last piece of gum when you were five and it did something to you, there was a hurt in there, and someone might say, oh, that's not a big deal. But the way that child interpreted it gave them this message. And then it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger, and that is a trauma. So that's where a lot of times when we're talking about things and people are like, trauma, they're think they're talking about some deep, deep, deep stuff.

00:10:58
We have repeated this a number of times. Trauma. Like my teacher calling me retarded in front of the whole class. Yes, people can see where that is. But that then gives a narrative.

00:11:06
Like, we don't know what that does or we do, like, knows what that does to the brain. And then it's this. It's kind of almost like this spiral. And I always say, every one of us, every one of our traumas is deepen. Meaning because that your trunk, your.

00:11:24
Your whatever your trauma was, is the deepest trauma ever because it's yours. That's this person's listening, and that person's now what you know, and what. Why I always say, why I say it that way is because what does that mean to you? What happened to you? I don't know.

00:11:40
And that means different things for each person. You know, it was, you know, somebody that was, you know, abandoned was that, you know, it's the deepest cuz it's yours. It's the worst. It's cuz it's yours. And.

00:11:55
But what exactly it is doesn't matter, right? The same thing is, yo, uh, you know, feelings, no. Right or wrong, that's how you feel. And, you know, again, prime example myself, right? We talk about this, you know, I will not ask for help.

00:12:22
You know how many people have let me down? My life, you know, I won't. I won't ask for help. You know, it's, you know, getting ready for the golf event here in 61 days. Yeah.

00:12:42
Again, more people let me down, you know? And when I let people, you know, ask for help, let me down and believe someone's gonna do what they say, you know, and help me with the foundation, they don't. And where does it take me? Takes you down a dark spot. Mm hmm.

00:13:02
Yeah. Then, you know, it's like, okay, what's wrong with me, sir? Why? Why? You know, why me?

00:13:09
Meaning, like you said, you're gonna help me out. Why not? Am I not good enough? And that's just, that's the natural of our landscape and our brain, because from the time we grabbed that first book, we started struggling, right. And it is one of those things where it is etched into, there's like a pathway that it continues and continues.

00:13:29
And the more it keeps happening, it continues and continues. And to break it, it takes a lot of work and it takes, you know, and it takes acknowledging and you, you know, it. And I feel like there's been times where you've done, like, some big strides, right. And it's like, okay. And then all of a sudden it's like, nope, you're getting kicked right back down.

00:13:46
Two steps forward, one step back. Obviously you're still moving forward. But that's why I was talking about the self esteem. That's why it's so important. You know, we've been knocked down 10 million more times than a normal, you know, normal person.

00:14:05
So we're 10 million times deeper in that, you know, in that dark hole. And I can climb back up. But the stupidest thing to a non dyslexic, you know, someone not responding to a text message within, you know, doesn't have to be immediately within, you know, not your day or whatever it is, can take me down. Because then you start questioning yourself, why? Why can't, what's wrong with me?

00:14:32
Can't respond like you don't like me. You know, these are things that we start questioning because that's all we've done our whole life. Yeah. I mean, so it's just something for someone to hear a different side. But, and I think in the last episode, we did ask people, I think we touched on the seven seven that we were going to be doing, something we also would love to hear.

00:14:56
And we did say that again, like, what are things that if it's different than something close to home, these are different things. What are things that grab you that you stop and say, idea campaign. Ideas, please. All ideas are great ideas because you never know. Never know.

00:15:18
With our brain. We probably haven't thought of it right by the front of us and we're still chasing that squirrel. We turn back. Well, and so I want to segue this just a second because, and we are going to go deeper into this because this is something that has come up multiple times, and it is, and we're just going to scratch the surface here. But learning styles, we talked about this in the beginning, how you learn, how you interpret, especially when you're working on teams and incorporations like, that really is when there's multiple people, how does one get information in, and then how do they get it out?

00:16:04
And each person, everyone does it different. There are, like, as we have talked about the love languages, right? There are words to these learning styles. But what's really interesting, and I. And I believe I've shared.

00:16:19
I know I shared this with you. I don't know if I shared this with the audience, but back in the day, when I used to do, I used to do some fitness coaching, and there was a seminar we took, and it was about your brain. This is an interesting story for me to share, because, one, I was with all these women that I absolutely adored. We were really, like, building these great things. And the woman that was facilitating said, we're going to take a test.

00:16:43
And I immediately started, like, swallowing like this, and I was getting all sweaty, and I was like, oh, what is she talking about? We're taking a test now in this. And I will say, and I. We've talked about this a million times. I am confident.

00:16:56
You know, there's times where, yes, maybe I'm not as confident, but I am overall pretty confident. So the group of women that I was with saw me as more of a leader and as someone that's been in this and has, you know, was. Was building a business in this, this fitness. And so for them to. And no one really noticed except the two people that were sitting on the side, because I started getting real fidgety.

00:17:18
They're like, you good? And I was like, no, I don't know what kind of tests we're taking. And I'm getting a little anxious, and they're like, oh, I'm sure it's gonna be whatever. They put this piece of paper down, and they wanted us to draw the image that was on the screen, on the paper. It took me right back to testing dyslexic testing.

00:17:37
It took me back to when Montgomery had to get tested, and I couldn't. I was also. I do remember I was hormonal. Am I not hormonal? But it was like that time of the month where I was hormonal.

00:17:50
So I was a little extra sensitive. My eyes, like, welled up, and I started literally being like, oh, my gosh, okay. As I was starting to draw it, I looked at my paper, and I looked at the girl next to me, and literally, hers was perfect, and mine looked like I was probably two years old. Like, it didn't even look like a kindergarten. Like, it was like that picture I got from my mom when I was five years old.

00:18:17
Oh, 100%. Exactly. It looks like back. I could not copy from what was on the paper, put it there. And I literally.

00:18:24
And I remember two of the people across were like, yes, that was so cool. And everyone was looking around, and all of a sudden, someone caught my eye, and they're like, you good? And I just started bawling. Well. And of course, it was like, Juliett, what is going on?

00:18:38
And I was like, okay, I'm having a thing right now. Tests. And everyone's like, okay, this is so out of character. So we actually got into a conversation. I was like, a lot of you don't know, school is really hard to me.

00:18:47
I was, you know, whatever. I'm just like.

00:18:51
So I was like, oh, my gosh. Okay, so the whole point of me telling you this is we. Then there's all of these different categories of. They're called brain types, and the test comes from NASA, and it's because you don't want the same brain type in the shuttle when something goes wrong, you don't want all the people having all the same skill sets, so you want each brain to be in the shuttle. So, like, each brain can be like, okay, I'm gonna be awfully stuck for, like, a year, and a shuttle with somebody else with a different brain.

00:19:23
Now, I think they put them where they're. They're complimentary brains, right? Like, it's complimentary. Like, okay. But yes, right?

00:19:29
Different. So my brain is a direction changing brain. And that, like, it has nothing to do with the people that are like, oh, it's attention deficit. Nothing to do with adhd or dyslexia. But what that is, is I can change direction in a moment.

00:19:44
It doesn't mean I can multitask. Cause some people are like, oh, I am not actually a great multitasker at all. Like, I'm not a great multitasker, but I can change in a moment. I can be talking about something. Go to the next epic.

00:19:56
Go back to the subject. Go back to this. So I can work on multiple different projects, especially, like, with the company that I. With fed tech, I can work on all different things. Doesn't tweak me.

00:20:06
There's people that can't do that. They need to see it through, and there's nothing wrong. It's not that my brain is better or my brain is worse. No, it's just these interesting things. So when you think about these kind of brains in corporations, right?

00:20:19
And you also think about which people, like, what kind of people you attract, what kind of people you like working with better. What kind of people you work better with? Because sometimes you might like, like, like someone, oh, I love how their brain works. But then you start doing a project together, and you're like, okay, what's happening here? Why aren't we on the same page?

00:20:37
We're seem like we're missing, or it's like a beautiful dance. It's that point. How many people actually say what you just said, though? I like how their brain works. Zero.

00:20:46
Yeah, there's not many people. We worked, we work good together. Okay, great. What, why? There's that what?

00:20:53
Like, okay, you work good together. You know, do you complement each other? Great. Okay, why. And that's that, you know, that's why is what we're trying to.

00:21:04
Trying to break down, because as you just said, oh, draw that picture. Most of those people in that room, like, oh, that's easy. It's so easy, right? Or I tell people, some people, dyslexic, if you have two pieces of paper side by side, you got one word on one page, it's hard to take it to the next page. Like, what are you talking about?

00:21:26
So it's having more understanding of what that person, you know, we always talk about trying to put yourself in somebody else's shoes, you know, when it comes to the brain side of things that we're talking about here. You know, most can't, most certain think they're, you know, there's only one way to do things. Mm hmm. And that's why, again, you talk about the self esteem. You talk about knowing yourself, and you talk about, you know, not, not only knowing yourself, but how you work.

00:21:56
So if you have all three of those, you have the self esteem. You know, how you learn and how you. And how you can also talk and share to other people how you can teach, and you can be able to kind of adjust when you're working with people. That employee, that person is going to do really amazing things. So I'll take it again.

00:22:19
So I have the self esteem. I know how I work. However, right now in my life, I'm figuring out, like, so I just did a project, and with our chief science officer, we've done a couple different projects. This project, she and I, we actually, afterwards were like, oh, my God, we were so good because we've done this now, like, four or five times with each other, that the first time it was a shit show. Like, we got frustrated with each other.

00:22:45
It was like, oh, my gosh, I don't know. Like, why can't this is not working. I'm really frustrated here. Talked about it because we both are confident in our. Who we are, and we were able to have an open conversation about, okay, I didn't like how you did that.

00:22:58
I didn't like this. How about we try this? What if we try this way the next time? So then the next project we did, it was a little clunky, but it wasn't as clunky. And this one, it was amazing.

00:23:08
Now, when the final project we had to get approved, it was like, oh, wait, we need to change a lot of stuff. And then we took it back and we did it. But it's not putting it on us as I'm not good enough. I was wrong in the beginning. When I first started this job, I might have been like, oh, my God, I'm over my head.

00:23:27
But now I'm not. So it's also doing that work in the time that you're doing, it comes back, you know, it comes back, first off, for understanding and knowing yourself, right. And not lying to yourself or not trying to do yo. It's knowing yourself. You know, that's what, you know.

00:23:45
It's always. What I always say is that you two best days of life is the day you're born and they fall in love with yourself. And that's loving who you are and the flaws and how you are and how you operate. And we look in the mirror and say, I love, you know it, feel. Believe it, you know, that's.

00:24:01
That's knowing yourself, right? And you know yourself now. You've grown. You love yourself so that you're able to approach these things, you know, in this new position and to be able to have these conversations. Okay, I know how I operate.

00:24:14
You know, first when you said, you know, trainer, okay, great. But you're able to have that conversation because you. You know yourself, right? You're not trying to be a chameleon. And how do you.

00:24:25
How does. How's that. How does she think I need to be to work? No, this is, you know, this is who I am. Not.

00:24:32
It's not an attitude. This is who I am to, you know, I am who I am. Right. And then now it's easier to put yourself in somebody else's shoes because you know who you are, right. And it's not, you know, not left handed or right handed.

00:24:46
You can see that difference. No, it's, you know, handle me a Google Drive. Take your Google Drive, put it on the tire of my truck, and let me back over it. But some people, oh, I love it. Right?

00:24:58
Well, great. Yeah. And I mean, and that's one of the things with the foundation, is the goal is to have that person be able to understand and how. So when they go into that corporation, like, again, I'm very fortunate because where I work. But, like, think about.

00:25:16
Take my situation that I just told you, and I was working for a boss that didn't understand me, didn't get me, didn't have patience, and wasn't willing to watch things grow. Think about the amount of stress that that would put on a person. And that is a lot of companies out there, and I'm not coaching. Look at me coaching, yo. You know, obviously, we've, you know, be friends for, you know, year over, you know, year and a half coaching has.

00:25:46
Has it not been a nightmare for me? I came back every day. No, almost in tears. I was completely, you know, I was coaching at Hoffman State park district. You know, I had people tell me every day, you had no idea what you're doing.

00:26:03
You're an idiot. You're dumb. You can't coach. Um, then I had, you know, and I have kids that, you know, never wanted me to get off the ice, had so much fun. They, you know, they know better.

00:26:19
But you can only told you're dumb, stupid, lazy for so long. And that's why I still wake up every day, think I'm dumb, is because I've been told that my whole life. Right? And that's the narrative that needs to be changed. And that's what the big picture, taking it, aside from the 777 campaign, the big picture of what?

00:26:39
The foundation. The Sopa foundation. And you guys can go to sopafoundation.org, comma. You can follow Brent on all the socials, word blindness. You can also go to the socials and find little clips, but they're pretty much on all the pages.

00:26:53
But that is the overall goal, the admission and all the things that we're doing is that kid in the chair. That we give that kid in the chair the tools. We give the people around that kid in the chair the tools to be able to say, okay, we know how you learn. We see you. We understand you.

00:27:12
Let's do this together, and let's help you. So when you become an adult, you are an adult. That's also going to help people around you. You're going to have that understanding because you like who you are. You're going to be able to be more of an employee or a boss.

00:27:28
That's going to be like, okay, I see other people learn different. Let me take that top. Let me take my corporation and say, hey, let's do an activity and find out how everyone brains work, and let's figure this out. I mean, that should be something that should be done, in my opinion, right away in any kind of things. Coaches should know how kids interpret.

00:27:46
And get this. This should be something that should be front and center. And that is one of the things I said to a couple guys who run a master company, you know who they are, and, you know, I said, you guys are like a $350 million company. Something like that. I said, you go and do a presentation for, you know, half a million dollars or whatever that is, and you've got ten people in that room.

00:28:10
Those ten people learn differently, but you're pitching them the same way. I said, that doesn't make sense. I said, what you should do is, you know, after your presentation, go back and ask each one a question. Ask ten questions. You can ask ten different questions to find out how they each one learn.

00:28:32
Now. Then you can find out, okay, after the presentation, maybe I need to go and talk to person two and person four, because I know they didn't fully understand what I was trying to say. Yeah. And does it take work? A hundred percent.

00:28:44
But once you get that system in place, the hard work is taken and your company is more efficient. Hundred percent, you know, you're gonna close, yo. Okay. Now, let's just say out of those ten people, there's six that didn't understand. So now you go.

00:28:59
And, you know, if you go, you're gonna lose that deal because it's, you know, let's just straight up votes, you know, six, four, you're losing that deal. You know, like myself, you know, as we talk about how I can read people and I know what's coming and that. Right. It's. It's now it's a skill of mine.

00:29:15
Right. So could I be in that room and flip that? No problem. I could learn that in seconds. I can figure that out.

00:29:21
So you're. Everything takes time, work to get through, to understand, to get there. But once you do, if you're, you know, just using this company as an example, if, you know, everybody understood what you were saying, you have a better chance of closing that deal than not. Am I right? Yeah.

00:29:44
And think about when we were at a. When we won't name where we were, but we were sitting there, and there was a presentation being given to us, and this is actually makes me go. It was so funny. I don't know that we ever actually recorded because there's. I don't think we have actually.

00:30:02
Now you mentioned it. Yeah. No, yeah, the drum roll. Go ahead. So we're sending in a presentation.

00:30:12
I went to Chicago and there was, what, six of us? Yes. Okay. Six of us. So five.

00:30:21
One wasn't one presenter and then five of us. Yes. Right. And we got this beautiful folder, and it had all these leaflets in it. Now, what?

00:30:31
I was taking knowledge. You and I sat next to each other. Yeah. So let's. There's three people on one side of the table, and then there's three people on the other side.

00:30:40
So then Julietn and I are together on one side of. And the way we took out the papers is we took all the papers out and we're looking at them and took them out of order, and we both did it. And I didn't realize until later. And the reason why, I then became very aware of what was happening, because every time the person that was presenting was like, we're on this paper. And these papers had.

00:31:07
They were full of all words. Now they were highlighted and there's, like, what, 15 pages or. Yeah, yeah. And they were highlighted. The person did take the time to put, like, a.

00:31:19
Like, a header in their own handwriting of what the paper was totally great. She knew she was. That there was a couple of people going to be dyslexic. So she did that, which was really nice. Now, I would say, I wish there was a camera in there.

00:31:37
It was so comical. So there was probably the third piece of paper where I was like, I have. In my head, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm fucking lost. This is taking me back to history or whatever class where it's like, take the paper out. And I literally cannot find it.

00:31:51
I'm looking. I fucking look to the left, and Brent's sitting to the left. He's doing the same thing as I'm doing. So this happened. This was the first time.

00:31:59
And I was like, shit, I'm cheating off the wrong person. He doesn't know what he's doing. And now the other person to my right, you were more organized. I was mine. Shit was everywhere.

00:32:08
Well, because then I put it all together because I was like, oh, my God, we look like two four year olds. So then I was like, I tried to look at the person to the other side of me, and they were too far, so I couldn't see. And I literally was getting back to, like, took me back to school where I was trying to cheat, and I couldn't cheat because I couldn't see? And this person was the wrong person. And I.

00:32:25
Then I think it was the third time, I just start laughing, and I was like, I'm sorry, I just have to pause. I was like, Brett and I are so lost. We have no idea where you are. And I'm. All of a sudden, I looked at and I shared with them that I'm cheating off the wrong person.

00:32:39
And she starts laughing. Now, the person that was sitting to the right of us was like, yeah, I've been watching you two. And I think he was like. Like, laughing, but, like, very stoic, but was laughing like these two numb nuts. But the reason.

00:32:52
And I'm saying numb nuts in the nicest, funniest way, because it did look like we were like. I mean, we were total messes, but we were the same mess, which was hilarious, because you start looking off my paper, and then we catch each other's eye, and then we're like, yeah, literally, it was like I said, if we could. If we could replay this. Oh, yeah. Then the other guys sitting on the chair, everything's perfectly organized.

00:33:18
The fuck's wrong with me? You know? That's. And that's what I'm like, okay. What's wrong with me?

00:33:23
Why. Why did they all know where the fuck they are? Why don't. When. Then I got Juliet next to me and Mer, it's like, take your.

00:33:30
Take a binder to Kim. You drop, and papers are everywhere. That's her piling for her and piling for me and everybody else is just that nice and specific and like, well, then what's wrong with me? Right? And there was some PhDs in there, and I see.

00:33:46
And this is where it's interesting, right? And you maybe were saying that to yourself. I was just. I. But again, because I was like, oh, my God, I've been in this situation.

00:33:52
I was laughing, but I was like, I have to make a joke about this because it is so comical. But it's also so much what we're talking about. It's being played out right here. And, you know, the individual that was doing it said, you know, I did. And I said, listen, you did a great job by putting the words.

00:34:09
I said, I don't know if you saw, but we took the stuff out and mixed everything up. So then we didn't realize that you were going in order, which, I mean. And I haven't been in those. A lot of those rooms. Right?

00:34:19
So. Right. That's new. Those rooms are still new to me. Like, not for you.

00:34:23
You've been through that. You know, you've been in those situations, and you are. So it's. It's newer for me, so I'm like. And then that's.

00:34:31
I do start questioning. Yeah. Start sweating a little bit. Yeah. And you feel a little bit.

00:34:35
I mean, I definitely. You know, even when we were on the college campus, I. You know, I think I said to you, I was like, oh, my God, this is like. I definitely will take back. I have to pause because I know what to say to myself now, but I will stop and be like, okay.

00:34:48
I feel less. Not less than, but not as smart. I still give myself, even though I have confidence, I still, at times, will stop and do that. And I'm like, no, but then I have to talk myself up, right? Nope, you're here because.

00:35:01
Why are you here? And tell myself why I'm there. But I still do that whether I'm confident or not. I think that's human nature, but it doesn't still feel good. And thank goodness the people that were around, they were kind and they were nice, and it wasn't so.

00:35:15
It wasn't like you were with people that were, you know, would make you feel stupid. Right. So it wasn't that they were making us feel stupid at all. We were able to laugh about it. And so it was a teachable moment because they were like, oh, this is so interesting.

00:35:27
Okay. Wow. Right? Because they had very similar. Even though they probably had different learning styles, they still were more similar than the two of us sitting next to each other.

00:35:38
Two complete bombs went off next. Next to us. And that's where this is what's so interesting, too, and this is where I think it was cool for them, is I'm a female, you're a male, you know. Yes. We're in the same sort of age group.

00:35:53
Yeah, I still have it somewhere. Right, exactly. But dyslexia doesn't discriminate. It doesn't. You know, it's.

00:36:03
You know, you're a professional, ex professional hockey player, you know, whatever, you know, woman in this field over here, woman, hear me roar. But I'm saying, like, we're. We are so different. But then there's that similarity of the dyslexia, and that's why when we talk to people on the podcast and we talk to people out that we connect with that are dyslexic, that maybe haven't connected with people, they're like, oh, my gosh. You get it.

00:36:32
Okay. That's really cool. You get it. And that's the whole reason why we're sharing that story because there is this bond and the similarity. We sat next to each other because we felt comfortable.

00:36:42
It was like, okay, like, we feel a little intimidated in this space, but we're going to sit next to each other to kind of do that. And that's what we want to create and help the masses. That's connection, you know, and quick. When I was a couple years old in Detroit, a buddy, mine was coach for an NHL team. You know, we're out to dinner night before game and one of the guys on this team is dyslexic.

00:37:06
You know, he happened to kind of walk through the door. He came over and introduced me. Nice to meet you. Had a quick conversation. I said, just, you know, I just want to let you know, nice to meet you.

00:37:14
And I'm dyslexic too. And the smile he got on his face and he walked away. My buddy's like, dude, the fuck? I've never seen a smile like that on his face. You know, first time ma'am, you know, maybe had a two minute conversation because we knew I was a quick two minute conversation.

00:37:33
Nice to meet you. I'm just like, I've never seen a smile that big in my life around him. Yeah. Because he knew. I understood 100% he knew.

00:37:42
And that's the relatability and I'm going to leave it at that. So thank you again for joining. Word blindness. Dyslexia exposed. You know what I say every single time?

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